North site location benefits?

[wvhsparent]

archwinsome said:

Cough it up, buy it, plop the school there and apologize to the tax payers for F*ing the whole thing up.. but here's the school.

People and entities need to learn to say "I'm sorry. We were wrong. Let's move forward and build the school like it was intended".

OK fine, you want there so bad, you make sure you inform the SD to tack on the added costs to your tax bill and not mine.

[rew]

I want to know what are the added tax costs? The district no longer has their calculator on the web site. The BB property is 17M more. What does a 17M bond cost a property owner per 100 asessed value? I want to see it the number.

[doctorwho]

rew said:

I want to know what are the added tax costs? The district no longer has their calculator on the web site. The BB property is 17M more. What does a 17M bond cost a property owner per 100 asessed value? I want to see it the number.

what was the A/C cost per $300K house ( for $31M) - around $100 if I remember right. If someone still has that number ( I am sure it is in the archives on AC here) - if so easy to do the math. If my estimate above was remembered correctly - we are talking $55/M --

[wvhsparent]

ok 55 more for this, then how much more for the 09 ref? plus the A/C...........My wallet is pretty empty right now.

[rew]

I will spot you the $55 WVHSP, you can have it in cash or a gift card.

[wvhsparent]

rew said:

I will spot you the $55 WVHSP, you can have it in cash or a gift card.

For the next 20 years?

[doctorwho]

wvhsparent said:

ok 55 more for this, then how much more for the 09 ref? plus the A/C...........My wallet is pretty empty right now.

I can only speak for myself, but I totally understand this....you are not alone here. The difference is you will not have a horse in this race so the $55 is a stand alone debit for you. I do and the doubling of travel distance is a real cost to me also - to offset the $55. 2 different perspectives - same issue.

[Arch]

wvhsparent said:

archwinsome said:

Cough it up, buy it, plop the school there and apologize to the tax payers for F*ing the whole thing up.. but here's the school.

People and entities need to learn to say "I'm sorry. We were wrong. Let's move forward and build the school like it was intended".

OK fine, you want there so bad, you make sure you inform the SD to tack on the added costs to your tax bill and not mine.

Show me how much more than any other site when it's all said and done it is and I'll consider ponying up for your share. Keep in mind though, a parking sticker per vehicle being proposed by dupage county will cost more than the additional land cost. Who's covering that for you or any other tax increase you're inevitably going to face in the next 20 years?

I'm not trying to be snippy, just pointing out reality.

[gatormom]

I know that many of us here are willing to pay the extra, parent excluded, but how realistic is that for the district as a whole.

While the referendum passed, it was not 80-90%. There are many who didn't want to pay for MV and now you are going to ask for more. I don't think it would fly.

[wvhsparent]

archwinsome said:

wvhsparent said:

OK fine, you want there so bad, you make sure you inform the SD to tack on the added costs to your tax bill and not mine.

Show me how much more than any other site when it's all said and done it is and I'll consider ponying up for your share. Keep in mind though, a parking sticker per vehicle being proposed by dupage county will cost more than the additional land cost. Who's covering that for you or any other tax increase you're inevitably going to face in the next 20 years?

I'm not trying to be snippy, just pointing out reality.

I know...add that to the mix too with all the other stuff, like Fox Valley Park Dist want to raise it rate too.
We are getting nickel and dimed to death.....

and the fact that DuPage wants to add .25% to the sales tax.
(I am for that one - Vote yes to that one please!) as that will include non-County people helping
They claim they have to lay off over 200 (100+ people from the Sheriff's Office, where I work at.) We don't have 100 people to get rid of without some serious ramifications, which will be way worse than overcrowded schools!

[Arch]

wvhsparent said:

archwinsome said:

Show me how much more than any other site when it's all said and done it is and I'll consider ponying up for your share. Keep in mind though, a parking sticker per vehicle being proposed by dupage county will cost more than the additional land cost. Who's covering that for you or any other tax increase you're inevitably going to face in the next 20 years?

I'm not trying to be snippy, just pointing out reality.

I know...add that to the mix too with all the other stuff, like Fox Valley Park Dist want to raise it rate too.
We are getting nickel and dimed to death.....

and the fact that DuPage wants to add .25% to the sales tax.
(I am for that one - Vote yes to that one please!) as that will include non-County people helping
They claim they have to lay off over 200 (100+ people from the Sheriff's Office, where I work at.) We don't have 100 people to get rid of without some serious ramifications, which will be way worse than overcrowded schools!

I'm hip. They cut the needed things but leave the over-priced fluff (large ticket things). Welcome to crappy govt. Protect the large dollar interests that benefit few and penny-pinch the larger masses services that are absolutely needed and essential.

I look at things like this: One way or another it's going to go up. The question is what is there going to be to show for it when it all nets out.

As I already said, if they want it at some other location OTHER than a location in the north (or south) near a power substation, I'm on board. Kids plop their butts on the bus and life goes on.

Right now, the only one we know can be purchased and stuff be started is BB. Even if ground is not broken, the logistical and operations plans, schedules, contractors, etc can all start rolling to coordinate the administration of the project. That can't be done for any other site because we don't know of any locked in agreement and signed contract. The court says we can have BB immediately if we cough up the dough. We have to cough up more dough anyway due to time marching on as we dilly dally around contemplating what choice or options we need to exhaust further.

[EagleDad]

wvhsparent said:

and the fact that DuPage wants to add .25% to the sales tax.
(I am for that one - Vote yes to that one please!) as that will include non-County people helping
They claim they have to lay off over 200 (100+ people from the Sheriff's Office, where I work at.) We don't have 100 people to get rid of without some serious ramifications, which will be way worse than overcrowded schools!

parent, is the fix for the county decided yet and on the ballot? If so can you start a thread in off topic with the deetz? I don't want to miss supporting it.

[gatordog]

rew said:

Gatordog, I have to call you out, I have to point out that when talking about Fry moving to WV..."the distance is neglible", but when talking about Gombert going to NV "the distance cost is now much higher"?

I see the two distances equal. Just shows that it is the eye of the beholder and that we all see the situation through our own rose colored glasses.

I may have been a bit muddled in explaination---its happened before, and recently too. I think I see the context. Its apples and orange, i do believe.

First, when I was talking about Gomert to NV cost, I was making the analogy/comparison with Watts going to Waubonie or to north MV. My back and forth with doctorwho. The context was "the arguments doctorwho was making about north site concerning Watts could directly aply to Gombert with a non-macom south site."

Then, my saying Fry moving to WV, the "distance costs are neglible" the context there is when compared to the current Fry assigment at BB. In terms of distance, its nearly the same of course.

Very good catch, rew, I hope that helps. Its a matter of taking these statements in context.

One final note: in terms of "premium paid" for the district to have MV built and filled at BB, its my opinion that Fry area would have been paying the highest one. I really respect the willingness of this area to "buy into" this premium for their own behalf, and the good of the district. Much credit and respect is deserved.

[EagleDad]

So in the end, GD you'd agree that the distance for Gombert to attend NV is the same as Fry attending WV, right? Would you classify both scenarios as negligible?

Also, using this logic, one could say that when compared to the current Gombert assigment at BB. In terms of distance, Gombert assignment to NVHS is nearly the same of course.

[gatordog]

eagledad said:

So in the end, GD you'd agree that the distance for Gombert to attend NV is the same as Fry attending WV, right? Would you classify both scenarios as negligible?

Also, using this logic, one could say that when compared to the current Gombert assigment at BB. In terms of distance, Gombert assignment to NVHS is nearly the same of course.

I fully agree with this in terms of distance.

Actually, the distance thing for me is not as much an issue so long as its decently reasonable. (<3 or 4 mi is ok by me personally, even considering we are <0.5 mi from WV). Lots of kids (mine incl)will be busriders for bulk of HS. To be honest, the distance thing was a fallout of my debate with the good doctorwho .

For me, Gombert assigned to NV would not be a distance cost for us here. Oh no, that wouldnt be my prime concern. It would be the lack of neighborhood coming with us issue. The "island" thing. Whereas Fry potentially coming to WV could be with White Eagle and future Ashwood....definetly not an island.