North site location benefits?

[EagleDad]

I think it's important to understand that Fry might share the same trepidation of going to WVHS that Gombert would have going to NVHS. I'm not saying either is wrong or right, it's just reality and different perspectives.

[gatordog]

eagledad said:

I think it's important to understand that Fry might share the same trepidation of going to WVHS that Gombert would have going to NVHS. I'm not saying either is wrong or right, it's just reality and different perspectives.

I will "recuse" myself, from an answer as well. Should such an issue come to pass... I would be happy to let the entire district and its leadership be the judge. (thats a "justice is blind" smiley face)

[doctorwho]

gatormom said:

I know that many of us here are willing to pay the extra, parent excluded, but how realistic is that for the district as a whole.

While the referendum passed, it was not 80-90%. There are many who didn't want to pay for MV and now you are going to ask for more. I don't think it would fly.

Although I do believe there may have been some no votes that didn't like the BB site - who might view it differently now.

It's the what's in it for me syndrome -- let's say we need extra money to build at AME - do you think Brookdale would be 80% no ? But then others would change --

I believe it would be tight, and tough, but I still think it could squeak by -

what if it was tied to the A/C ? Not saying it should be , just asking

[harry]

archwinsome said:

Cough it up, buy it, plop the school there and apologize to the tax payers for F*ing the whole thing up.. but here's the school.

People and entities need to learn to say "I'm sorry. We were wrong. Let's move forward and build the school like it was intended".

Arch

Great concept and one I would follow if I were a SB member and wanted BB. Especially since their track record shows nothing but inconsistencies and inaccuracies thus far.

[harry]

doctorwho said:

rew said:

I want to know what are the added tax costs? The district no longer has their calculator on the web site. The BB property is 17M more. What does a 17M bond cost a property owner per 100 asessed value? I want to see it the number.

what was the A/C cost per $300K house ( for $31M) - around $100 if I remember right. If someone still has that number ( I am sure it is in the archives on AC here) - if so easy to do the math. If my estimate above was remembered correctly - we are talking $55/M --

Wow!!!

For somone who always blasted me for worrying about expenses, this shows your true colors about your pocketbook but more importantly how it is ALL about you ;D

[harry]

gatordog said:

rew said:

Gatordog, I have to call you out, I have to point out that when talking about Fry moving to WV..."the distance is neglible", but when talking about Gombert going to NV "the distance cost is now much higher"?

I see the two distances equal. Just shows that it is the eye of the beholder and that we all see the situation through our own rose colored glasses.

I may have been a bit muddled in explaination---its happened before, and recently too. I think I see the context. Its apples and orange, i do believe.

First, when I was talking about Gomert to NV cost, I was making the analogy/comparison with Watts going to Waubonie or to north MV. My back and forth with doctorwho. The context was "the arguments doctorwho was making about north site concerning Watts could directly aply to Gombert with a non-macom south site."

Then, my saying Fry moving to WV, the "distance costs are neglible" the context there is when compared to the current Fry assigment at BB. In terms of distance, its nearly the same of course.

Very good catch, rew, I hope that helps. Its a matter of taking these statements in context.

One final note: in terms of "premium paid" for the district to have MV built and filled at BB, its my opinion that Fry area would have been paying the highest one. I really respect the willingness of this area to "buy into" this premium for their own behalf, and the good of the district. Much credit and respect is deserved.

It doesn't matter where the school is built and how far anyone has for their 'commute'.. If it is the BEST SOLUTION for the collective community, then that is the ONLY decision that should be made.

Period. End of Sentence

[doctorwho]

harry said:

doctorwho said:

what was the A/C cost per $300K house ( for $31M) - around $100 if I remember right. If someone still has that number ( I am sure it is in the archives on AC here) - if so easy to do the math. If my estimate above was remembered correctly - we are talking $55/M --

Wow!!!

For somone who always blasted me for worrying about expenses, this shows your true colors about your pocketbook but more importantly how it is ALL about you ;D

what the heck are you talking about ? I answered a question on how much this would cost someone-- are you that desparate to try and get a shot in you can't comprehend what is written ?
I am all for paying the money -- please tell me where I am worried about my pocketbook here ?

You really need to stop trying to make everything personal....it adds nothing to your points

[doctorwho]

harry said:

gatordog said:

I may have been a bit muddled in explaination---its happened before, and recently too. I think I see the context. Its apples and orange, i do believe.

First, when I was talking about Gomert to NV cost, I was making the analogy/comparison with Watts going to Waubonie or to north MV. My back and forth with doctorwho. The context was "the arguments doctorwho was making about north site concerning Watts could directly aply to Gombert with a non-macom south site."

Then, my saying Fry moving to WV, the "distance costs are neglible" the context there is when compared to the current Fry assigment at BB. In terms of distance, its nearly the same of course.

Very good catch, rew, I hope that helps. Its a matter of taking these statements in context.

One final note: in terms of "premium paid" for the district to have MV built and filled at BB, its my opinion that Fry area would have been paying the highest one. I really respect the willingness of this area to "buy into" this premium for their own behalf, and the good of the district. Much credit and respect is deserved.

It doesn't matter where the school is built and how far anyone has for their 'commute'.. If it is the BEST SOLUTION for the collective community, then that is the ONLY decision that should be made.

Period. End of Sentence

good , then please explain to all of us how a northern site is best for the whole community.

[Arch]

Doc, Doc Doc... I thought NO site best for the community because everything about overcrowding; current or pending, is simply a fabrication of the SB and everyone else looped into this huge big conspiracy.

[harry]

doctorwho said:

wvhsparent said:

ok 55 more for this, then how much more for the 09 ref? plus the A/C...........My wallet is pretty empty right now.

I can only speak for myself, but I totally understand this....you are not alone here. The difference is you will not have a horse in this race so the $55 is a stand alone debit for you. I do and the doubling of travel distance is a real cost to me also - to offset the $55. 2 different perspectives - same issue.

My apologies

THIS is the post where it is all about you and your money

[harry]

doctorwho said:

harry said:

Wow!!!

For somone who always blasted me for worrying about expenses, this shows your true colors about your pocketbook but more importantly how it is ALL about you ;D

what the heck are you talking about ? I answered a question on how much this would cost someone-- are you that desparate to try and get a shot in you can't comprehend what is written ?
I am all for paying the money -- please tell me where I am worried about my pocketbook here ?

You really need to stop trying to make everything personal....it adds nothing to your points

12/03/07 Doc Wrote that he/she would no longer respond to my posts, it officially lasted 5 days

Bring it, Doc

[Arch]

Harry, you're attempting to make something out of nothing. If someone wants to give a cost perspective with a real world dollar figure, they can.

[doctorwho]

harry said:

doctorwho said:

what the heck are you talking about ? I answered a question on how much this would cost someone-- are you that desparate to try and get a shot in you can't comprehend what is written ?
I am all for paying the money -- please tell me where I am worried about my pocketbook here ?

You really need to stop trying to make everything personal....it adds nothing to your points

12/03/07 Doc Wrote that he/she would no longer respond to my posts, it officially lasted 5 days

Bring it, Doc

sorry about being baited - you really must have nothing to do. Congratulations you must be so proud - geez

maybe you'll enjoy some more time off -- was it worth it ?

[harry]

archwinsome said:

Doc, Doc Doc... I thought NO site best for the community because everything about overcrowding; current or pending, is simply a fabrication of the SB and everyone else looped into this huge big conspiracy.

Exactly

"Scare the district with split shifts and trailers with OVER INFLATED estimates of enrollment and get a 3rd hs ref passed so that my child can do a round-off flip flop down the hall during passing periods, and my mediocre tennis player child can make 'the team' cause I paid for 8 years of 'travel' tennis, and the rest of my precious bundles of joy can get hot curly fries in the last lunch hour of the day....

I'll GLADLY over pay for those privileges in excess of 25 years because my exceptional kids are worth every penny" ;D ;D ;D

Love,

It's all about me and mine

gag me

[doctorwho]

harry said:

doctorwho said:

I can only speak for myself, but I totally understand this....you are not alone here. The difference is you will not have a horse in this race so the $55 is a stand alone debit for you. I do and the doubling of travel distance is a real cost to me also - to offset the $55. 2 different perspectives - same issue.

My apologies

THIS is the post where it is all about you and your money

again your comprehension of a discussion is sorely lacking -- I didn't say my world was coming to and end like you so often do -- I simply stated that I have a cost factor parent does not. He understood the discussion - something you clearly do not.
the FACT ( I know something you hate ) - is that I do have a cost involved as would my area - that Parent would not because his last child will be out of school.
Please try and get a clue before trying to rip someone next time