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Post by slp on Mar 6, 2008 10:30:42 GMT -6
Brad, do you think people who got their desired HS are overlooking issues? I just think they are unaffected so aren't paying attention. Sorry I did not see this. Let me clarify by issues I am talking about the mismanaged process and all the wasted money. Yes, I think there are a lot of uninformed. Not overlooking. But I also think their is a group who will say anything to ensure the current boundaries stick. Just my opinion. Just like a lot of "concerned" posters started showing up as soon as areas like Welch or Spring Brook got mentioned in our boundary discussions. Again, I am not trying to open old wounds just giving an opinion. right, sort of like that woman who spoke at the last sb meeting from Tamarack. Give me a break!
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Post by proschool on Mar 6, 2008 10:31:36 GMT -6
I hear people who will not attend MV critisizing those of us who are concerned all the time. Go have a look at Parnet's proboard site. There are also people on this board and the other board who don't attend MV who sympathize with you and the others who are concerned. Thank you. I appreciate that.
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Post by WeBe204 on Mar 6, 2008 10:34:57 GMT -6
Sorry I did not see this. Let me clarify by issues I am talking about the mismanaged process and all the wasted money. Yes, I think there are a lot of uninformed. Not overlooking. But I also think their is a group who will say anything to ensure the current boundaries stick. Just my opinion. Just like a lot of "concerned" posters started showing up as soon as areas like Welch or Spring Brook got mentioned in our boundary discussions. Again, I am not trying to open old wounds just giving an opinion. right, sort of like that woman who spoke at the last sb meeting from Tamarack. Give me a break! Yes, she holds a very special place in my heart. And to be honest whenever I look at Tamarack I remember her. It's just what this process does to people. How does one person speak against the another communtiy you share an es with. It's nuts. But she had to have NVHS. Wheatleand had to stay at NVHS. Nevermind they could have made room to solve some of the issues with split MS and issues in the east/central part of the district.
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Post by refbasics on Mar 6, 2008 10:39:17 GMT -6
At least they will admit that construction costs on AME are more than Brach-Brodie. AME = 121,719,110 BB = 118,504,700 What about what we will still need to pay BB? Do we know this? I don't think we could put a final cost on things when we do not know the cost of everything. I admit sometimes when I have not read for a while and there are over 5 pages of stuff to catch up on I don't really go back and read, so this may have been discussed. -------------- Don't worry if you miss reading for several days- 'nonimportant' things like this aren't discussed too often! .. but it will be a banner day if the mascot or school colors are changed! ;D
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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Mar 6, 2008 10:42:00 GMT -6
Brad, do you think people who got their desired HS are overlooking issues? I just think they are unaffected so aren't paying attention. Sorry I did not see this. Let me clarify by issues I am talking about the mismanaged process and all the wasted money. Yes, I think there are a lot of uninformed. Not overlooking. But I also think their is a group who will say anything to ensure the current boundaries stick. Just my opinion. Just like a lot of "concerned" posters started showing up as soon as areas like Welch or Spring Brook got mentioned in our boundary discussions. Again, I am not trying to open old wounds just giving an opinion. Brad, It seems to me that you have posted on here several times how you don't like subdivisions being called names. I am surprised you made the above comment. I believe you just called Welch and Springbrook unconcerned about this site. Please don't fall into the same category as many of us accidently do and begin to group everyone together. There are concerned parents in both areas that don't want the SB to make mistakes and cost us $$ in lawsuits. There is probably a bigger group out there that wants the HS to be built and really doesn't care where their kids go. That is my view, personally. However, people that are unaffected by the boundaries still want to ensure a safe school. Please don't generalize.
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Post by sushi on Mar 6, 2008 10:45:42 GMT -6
The message I am hearing most today is that we all want to know exactly what happened. I think I know what went down but details, details would satisfy a lot of people. I know the board is sick of us, but why not just give us the reasons, admit they made mistakes and let us move forward, instead of taking a pissant attitude.
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Post by sushi on Mar 6, 2008 10:46:41 GMT -6
There was no reason for Howie to try when we had BB, a more desirable site. If you remember, many people didn't like BB either, but the board said it was the best of what parcels were available. Whether the church was interested in selling or not, MWGen was still using the site. ---------- did you ever ask yourself..... why was it the best? to the point of forsaking anything else... even a Plan B, in case... lo and behold.. we needed a Plan B? another mistake/assumption.
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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Mar 6, 2008 10:48:08 GMT -6
The message I am hearing most today is that we all want to know exactly what happened. I think I know what went down but details, details would satisfy a lot of people. I know the board is sick of us, but why not just give us the reasons, admit they made mistakes and let us move forward, instead of taking a pissant attitude. Couldn't agree more. This SB needs a PR person badly. If they had a spokesman who could contain the arrogance and scoffing, that would help. Bottom line though, is their lack of communication. This just screams to me that they are hiding something.
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Post by WeBe204 on Mar 6, 2008 10:48:24 GMT -6
Sorry I did not see this. Let me clarify by issues I am talking about the mismanaged process and all the wasted money. Yes, I think there are a lot of uninformed. Not overlooking. But I also think their is a group who will say anything to ensure the current boundaries stick. Just my opinion. Just like a lot of "concerned" posters started showing up as soon as areas like Welch or Spring Brook got mentioned in our boundary discussions. Again, I am not trying to open old wounds just giving an opinion. Brad, It seems to me that you have posted on here several times how you don't like subdivisions being called names. I am surprised you made the above comment. I believe you just called Welch and Springbrook unconcerned about this site. Please don't fall into the same category as many of us accidently do and begin to group everyone together. There are concerned parents in both areas that don't want the SB to make mistakes and cost us $$ in lawsuits. There is probably a bigger group out there that wants the HS to be built and really doesn't care where their kids go. That is my view, personally. However, people that are unaffected by the boundaries still want to ensure a safe school. Please don't generalize. Very good point.
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Post by sushi on Mar 6, 2008 10:50:56 GMT -6
I really don't think they are hiding something; they are being pissy about all the whining. They need to take the high road. This is socialskills, 101.
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Post by secondtimearound on Mar 6, 2008 10:53:38 GMT -6
I really don't think they are hiding something; they are being pissy about all the whining. They need to take the high road. This is socialskills, 101. They need to remember they represent all the residents of District 204, not just those who agree with them. Transaprency and some humility would go along way IMHO.
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Post by twhl on Mar 6, 2008 10:53:58 GMT -6
The message I am hearing most today is that we all want to know exactly what happened. I think I know what went down but details, details would satisfy a lot of people. I know the board is sick of us, but why not just give us the reasons, admit they made mistakes and let us move forward, instead of taking a pissant attitude. Couldn't agree more. This SB needs a PR person badly. If they had a spokesman who could contain the arrogance and scoffing, that would help. Bottom line though, is their lack of communication. This just screams to me that they are hiding something. And the PR person is certainly no one currently on the board. What are the odds the report isn't published tomorrow, but next Friday because of unforeseen delays, and somehow becomes available only hours before the Monday Board meeting and the results are voted on ??
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Post by refbasics on Mar 6, 2008 10:55:47 GMT -6
The message I am hearing most today is that we all want to know exactly what happened. I think I know what went down but details, details would satisfy a lot of people. I know the board is sick of us, but why not just give us the reasons, admit they made mistakes and let us move forward, instead of taking a pissant attitude. Couldn't agree more. This SB needs a PR person badly. If they had a spokesman who could contain the arrogance and scoffing, that would help. Bottom line though, is their lack of communication. This just screams to me that they are hiding something. --- ok, that's it... 'clue'.. i mean sleepless.. you have 'felt sorry' & 'lost sleep' over every subdivision in the SD... now you are playing 'both sides'? .. you have lost any credibility a long time ago!
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Post by Arch on Mar 6, 2008 10:57:42 GMT -6
It only takes 1 single 'oops' at that site in the future to financially bury this district. The small extra cost for insurance against that (somewhere else with less hazards) is more than worth it, IMO.
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Post by rural on Mar 6, 2008 11:00:51 GMT -6
It only takes 1 single 'oops' at that site in the future to financially bury this district. The small extra cost for insurance against that (somewhere else with less hazards) is more than worth it, IMO. And a huge chunk of space sattelite could fall on the BB site. There's a reason they're called Freak accidents.
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