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Post by doctorwho on May 17, 2010 15:10:26 GMT -6
District 204's Board of Education and the Indian Prairie Education Association (IPEA) have reached a tentative agreement on a new two-year contract for District 204 teachers. Members of the IPEA are expected to ratify the contract on May 27. The Board of Education will vote on the contract after it is ratified. Details of the tentative agreement will be shared with the community after the terms of the agreement are presented to IPEA members. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- School District 204 www.ipsd.org780 Shoreline Drive Aurora, IL 60504 USA
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Post by casey on May 17, 2010 15:33:30 GMT -6
So what are everyone's thoughts? What will the contract be? I would think that it would include a salary freeze and an increase in health care premiums. I feel somewhat sorry for teachers but unfortunately that's our world today. Everyone is suffering salary and job cuts, increased healthcare costs, higher taxes, lower bonuses, etc. In today's world the mantra seems to be "hey, bonus? You still have a job! How's that for a bonus."
Unfortunately there's never any kind of discussion with regard to administrative salary and benefits. As a district we just always lay down and give them what they want. You know how difficult it is to find excellent qualified employees in today's world. It is imperative that we keep our top administrators always happy so they don't leave the district.
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Post by refbasics on May 17, 2010 15:36:39 GMT -6
So what are everyone's thoughts? What will the contract be? I would think that it would include a salary freeze and an increase in health care premiums. I feel somewhat sorry for teachers but unfortunately that's our world today. Everyone is suffering salary and job cuts, increased healthcare costs, higher taxes, lower bonuses, etc. In today's world the mantra seems to be "hey, bonus? You still have a job! How's that for a bonus." Unfortunately there's never any kind of discussion with regard to administrative salary and benefits. As a district we just always lay down and give them what they want. You know how difficult it is to find excellent qualified employees in today's world. It is imperative that we keep our top administrators always happy so they don't leave the district. ----------------- the administration always gets what the teachers get... except in the case of a DECREASE in pay and benefits.
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Post by district204 on May 17, 2010 17:15:32 GMT -6
So lets see if my company came to me and said... 1) We spent 150 million on a facility we did not need based on false numbers we presented 2) We previously also bought a section of land for millions we cannot sell and remains empty 3) We continue to pay legal bills on that empty land which is still in court 4) We also want you to pay for all our medical insurance both health and dental 5) Oh and we want you to take a pay freeze Your kidding right.... Quite simply the decisions of our administration and school board have placed this community square in the cross hairs of a financial disaster. We then ask or take the attitude that the work force who had nothing to do with any of it pay for it? ? While the administration gets a free ride on their health insurance and dental insurance being paid for by the union. Yet these same administrators make a huge percentage more than our neighbors of district 203 who have not screwed over their parents and kids. WHY DON'T THE ADMINISTRATORS ALL CUT THEIR SALARIES TO MATCH THOSE OF 203? When they do that then I can see the union taking a pay freeze. Until then I have a feeling it is going to be a very spirited discussion when the negotiating team tries to sell this to the union. Considering the administration has not cut back them selves to district 203 admin salary levels. District 204 teachers make less than 203. While District 204 admin make a lot more than district 203 admin. HMMMM love to be in that auditorium when that discussion starts on this contract.
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Post by refbasics on May 17, 2010 17:26:19 GMT -6
So what are everyone's thoughts? What will the contract be? I would think that it would include a salary freeze and an increase in health care premiums. I feel somewhat sorry for teachers but unfortunately that's our world today. Everyone is suffering salary and job cuts, increased healthcare costs, higher taxes, lower bonuses, etc. In today's world the mantra seems to be "hey, bonus? You still have a job! How's that for a bonus." Unfortunately there's never any kind of discussion with regard to administrative salary and benefits. As a district we just always lay down and give them what they want. You know how difficult it is to find excellent qualified employees in today's world. It is imperative that we keep our top administrators always happy so they don't leave the district. ----------------------- and if there is no decrease or freeze, what's the point of the 2 year contract... make it 1 year again.. and see where we are as a district.
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Post by doctorwho on May 17, 2010 22:27:17 GMT -6
So lets see if my company came to me and said... 1) We spent 150 million on a facility we did not need based on false numbers we presented 2) We previously also bought a section of land for millions we cannot sell and remains empty 3) We continue to pay legal bills on that empty land which is still in court 4) We also want you to pay for all our medical insurance both health and dental 5) Oh and we want you to take a pay freeze Your kidding right.... Quite simply the decisions of our administration and school board have placed this community square in the cross hairs of a financial disaster. We then ask or take the attitude that the work force who had nothing to do with any of it pay for it? ? While the administration gets a free ride on their health insurance and dental insurance being paid for by the union. Yet these same administrators make a huge percentage more than our neighbors of district 203 who have not screwed over their parents and kids. WHY DON'T THE ADMINISTRATORS ALL CUT THEIR SALARIES TO MATCH THOSE OF 203? When they do that then I can see the union taking a pay freeze. Until then I have a feeling it is going to be a very spirited discussion when the negotiating team tries to sell this to the union. Considering the administration has not cut back them selves to district 203 admin salary levels. District 204 teachers make less than 203. While District 204 admin make a lot more than district 203 admin. HMMMM love to be in that auditorium when that discussion starts on this contract. hope to get some first hand feedback from that session
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Post by lacy on May 18, 2010 6:18:54 GMT -6
So lets see if my company came to me and said... 1) We spent 150 million on a facility we did not need based on false numbers we presented 2) We previously also bought a section of land for millions we cannot sell and remains empty 3) We continue to pay legal bills on that empty land which is still in court 4) We also want you to pay for all our medical insurance both health and dental 5) Oh and we want you to take a pay freeze Your kidding right.... Quite simply the decisions of our administration and school board have placed this community square in the cross hairs of a financial disaster. We then ask or take the attitude that the work force who had nothing to do with any of it pay for it? ? While the administration gets a free ride on their health insurance and dental insurance being paid for by the union. Yet these same administrators make a huge percentage more than our neighbors of district 203 who have not screwed over their parents and kids. WHY DON'T THE ADMINISTRATORS ALL CUT THEIR SALARIES TO MATCH THOSE OF 203? When they do that then I can see the union taking a pay freeze. Until then I have a feeling it is going to be a very spirited discussion when the negotiating team tries to sell this to the union. Considering the administration has not cut back them selves to district 203 admin salary levels. District 204 teachers make less than 203. While District 204 admin make a lot more than district 203 admin. HMMMM love to be in that auditorium when that discussion starts on this contract. And herein lies the problem with public schools. The teachers union and administration are locked in a battle to see who cries uncle first - but who is thinking about what is best for the STUDENTS? I'm glad I sent my kid to private school.
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Post by slp on May 18, 2010 7:30:51 GMT -6
So lets see if my company came to me and said... 1) We spent 150 million on a facility we did not need based on false numbers we presented 2) We previously also bought a section of land for millions we cannot sell and remains empty 3) We continue to pay legal bills on that empty land which is still in court 4) We also want you to pay for all our medical insurance both health and dental 5) Oh and we want you to take a pay freeze Your kidding right.... Quite simply the decisions of our administration and school board have placed this community square in the cross hairs of a financial disaster. We then ask or take the attitude that the work force who had nothing to do with any of it pay for it? ? While the administration gets a free ride on their health insurance and dental insurance being paid for by the union. Yet these same administrators make a huge percentage more than our neighbors of district 203 who have not screwed over their parents and kids. WHY DON'T THE ADMINISTRATORS ALL CUT THEIR SALARIES TO MATCH THOSE OF 203? When they do that then I can see the union taking a pay freeze. Until then I have a feeling it is going to be a very spirited discussion when the negotiating team tries to sell this to the union. Considering the administration has not cut back them selves to district 203 admin salary levels. District 204 teachers make less than 203. While District 204 admin make a lot more than district 203 admin. HMMMM love to be in that auditorium when that discussion starts on this contract. And herein lies the problem with public schools. The teachers union and administration are locked in a battle to see who cries uncle first - but who is thinking about what is best for the STUDENTS? I'm glad I sent my kid to private school. Agree! I am glad we are sending my daughter to private school . Making some sacrafices to do so , but I think it will be well worth it. I will have a soph. at WVHS next year too and think it is imperative for us parents to be on top of the admin. to ensure our kids don't fall through the cracks with the spending cuts. At least the nice thing about private school is that you know your money is truely going towards educating your child, as opposed to any increase in my State Income Tax under the guise that it is for education. I have no trust in our public officials to do with our money as they claim. Sad State we are in! Literally!
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Post by doctorwho on May 18, 2010 8:18:24 GMT -6
And herein lies the problem with public schools. The teachers union and administration are locked in a battle to see who cries uncle first - but who is thinking about what is best for the STUDENTS? I'm glad I sent my kid to private school. Agree! I am glad we are sending my daughter to private school . Making some sacrafices to do so , but I think it will be well worth it. I will have a soph. at WVHS next year too and think it is imperative for us parents to be on top of the admin. to ensure our kids don't fall through the cracks with the spending cuts. At least the nice thing about private school is that you know your money is truely going towards educating your child, as opposed to any increase in my State Income Tax under the guise that it is for education. I have no trust in our public officials to do with our money as they claim. Sad State we are in! Literally! trust me- you won't be sorry...it is indeed a sacrifice, but the pay back is multi fold -- what's sad are the changes here that has made so many people contemplate that decision..
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Post by casey on May 18, 2010 10:55:57 GMT -6
District to rehire teachers May 18, 2010 www.suburbanchicagonews.com/napervillesun/news/2285492,D204-to-rehire-teachers_NA051810.article By KATHY CICHON kcichon@stmedianetwork.com Nearly half of the 145 teachers laid off by Indian Prairie School District 204 will return to the classroom next year, and that number will likely grow to include more. "We have succeeded in re-hiring 70.5," said Nancy Valenta, assistant superintendent for human resources, at Monday's board meeting. "Not all of them are from the 145 but we are diligent in filling every portion and full FTE that we can while recognizing there are no new positions allocated." "We expect to be able to bring more back to you in the near future," Valenta said. Some of the rehires are happening because of staff turnover, she said. And some of it is happening from positions that the district held in order to make sure it had the extracurricular activities covered, especially at the high school level. "We're hiring back as the need arises and the specifications of the position call for it," Valenta said. The hiring is being done internally, with the teachers who were laid off notified first of the openings. If none of them are hired for the position, it will open to all District 204 staff. If no one applies, it will be posted externally. "We haven't had any postings go external yet," Valenta said. While the district announced Monday it has re-hired some teachers, the board also voted to lay off 16 classified and non-bargaining staff members. Those staff members include occupational therapists, registered nurses, business and technical staff, Valenta said. The staff reduction is expected to save the district approximately $700,000. "There will be a few more that will be presented to you later this summer," she told the board. "We're still trying to accomplish our financial goal through as much natural attrition as we can."
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Post by casey on May 18, 2010 10:58:40 GMT -6
What am I not understanding? The district voted to release 145 teachers as a cost-savings means to the state financial crisis involving our school district. Given the fact that nothing has changed on that end (IL has not voted to increase taxes and has not come up with more money to pay schools) where is our district coming up with the money to pay these re-hired teachers. What do I not get?
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Post by Arch on May 18, 2010 11:06:32 GMT -6
Probably putting emphasis on re-hiring the ones that need just one more year for tenure so they can solidify their voting base... just my guess.
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Post by EagleDad on May 18, 2010 12:48:30 GMT -6
What am I not understanding? The district voted to release 145 teachers as a cost-savings means to the state financial crisis involving our school district. Given the fact that nothing has changed on that end (IL has not voted to increase taxes and has not come up with more money to pay schools) where is our district coming up with the money to pay these re-hired teachers. What do I not get? Casey I am with you in your confusion. This smells of games being played. We need to stop the games, now more than ever.
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Post by blankcheck on May 19, 2010 9:37:45 GMT -6
Every year teachers who do not have tenure are pink slipped, then rehired as needed. The difference,as I see it, is that because of the financial situation of our state and local district they are playing a game with the taxpayers. Look at the press it has gotten every district that has layed off teachers? What better hot button to push than the "EDUCATION" button. Again, we are being played like a fiddle.
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Post by mela on May 19, 2010 20:47:13 GMT -6
The terms of a tentative two-year agreement were presented to the 2,170 members of the Indian Prairie Educational Association (IPEA) on Wednesday night. Superintendent Kathy Birkett said the agreement is a collaborative effort that takes into consideration the recent financial challenges created by the anticipated reduction in state funding next year. The tentative agreement provides a savings of $2.5 million in the first year of the contract. The savings come from salaries remaining unchanged next year and implementing a more efficient medical plan. Teachers will also not receive the annual "step" increase provided for additional education or experience. In 2011-12, teachers will receive a 1.26 percent increase on their base salary beginning mid-year and "step" increases for education and experience will be allowed. The fiscally responsible terms of the tentative contract also provide jobs for some teachers that were released for next year. "Thanks to the hard work by all members of the negotiating team, the district is able to bring back 16 - 23 elementary teachers next year, which helps reduce class sizes while continuing to provide quality education," Birkett said. Val Dranias, IPEA President, stated, "Our goals were to be fiscally responsible, do what was best for students and staff, bring back as many released teachers as possible, reduce class size and stay competitive with benchmark districts. We believe that this contract accomplishes those goals." District officials and the IPEA began negotiations in February. The current contract expires at the end of August. The IPEA ratification vote takes place on May 27. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- School District 204 www.ipsd.org780 Shoreline Drive Aurora, IL 60504 USA
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