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Post by Arch on May 20, 2010 18:53:15 GMT -6
How many of those let go were coached sports?
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Post by macrockett on May 20, 2010 18:55:43 GMT -6
Lot of email chatter amongst the rank and file. So much so that the email system is now down. Interesting. Also why won't the district admin release the stipend list? The page identifying who makes what in stipends the admin is refusing to release. Why, what is being hidden? Every other contract it has been released when a contract has been brought firth to ratify. Yet this year it is missing and now word is our fine admin will not release it? Kathy why? So much for transparency. Word has it only 120 to 140 showed at the contract presentation out of 2,000. Either apathy or anger from what was leaked about the contract. This one is betting on anger. Stay tuned but a yes vote may not be what happens next week. Any information relating to school finances, including payments for after school program supervision, etc., is subject to the FOIA law. When I get time, after contacting Ms. Rakestraw about consistency in the curriculum between the HSs, I will be glad to do it. Right now I am underwater with work and the threads I like to maintain. I will be adding another red flag, from the head of Calpers who said today that the projected returns used in the pension models are, most likely, too high. See the pension thread for more.  |
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Post by district204 on May 20, 2010 19:30:37 GMT -6
Interesting the admin was suppose to make cuts. As of today the only verified cuts the admin has made is releasing two elementary school vice principals one of which went from a vice principal and in human resources to student services. The third went from the CEC back into the classroom.
So how much did Admin really cut? Amazing they just think this will not get out and or the public won't care.
What they do well with the school board is keep the spot light shining everywhere but on themselves or their puppet board.
So it now has come to light the stipend table with identifiable positions tied to the scale is being witheld and only one VP at an elementary building was let go.
Once again why is there no public outcry?
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Post by doctorwho on May 20, 2010 20:57:41 GMT -6
Mike is 100% correct 203 has 2008 and 2009 loaded not current numbers. Admin in 203 pay their own ticket for health and dental. Why would anyone be apposed to having our admin do the same. It is criminal this is continued to occur each year. Let's say at your office next week your now paying for your managers health and dental and his boss and so on. So would you be OK with that? Yet our FINE in the pocket school board continues the charade. The district spends over 11 million a year for 92 admin just in salary and an additional $300 to $400k per year in what the union gets paid to pay for this free ride. That is really OK with everyone? Based on what I have heard and know clearly this new version of the school board is a remake of the same old wink and nod with the admin. Wow Governor like politics in our neighborhood. Anyone surprised? not at all-- Blago could have learned a thing or two from some of our 'professionals' |
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Post by doctorwho on May 20, 2010 21:00:34 GMT -6
Interesting the admin was suppose to make cuts. As of today the only verified cuts the admin has made is releasing two elementary school vice principals one of which went from a vice principal and in human resources to student services. The third went from the CEC back into the classroom. So how much did Admin really cut? Amazing they just think this will not get out and or the public won't care. What they do well with the school board is keep the spot light shining everywhere but on themselves or their puppet board. So it now has come to light the stipend table with identifiable positions tied to the scale is being witheld and only one VP at an elementary building was let go. Once again why is there no public outcry? why can't we get a local paper to print the facts on anything -- same general reasons, we have a group that covers their tracks to all but those who actually seek out the info -- it will NEVER get out on it's own to the general public. We had one reporter here who actually started printing reality- next thing you know he was gone..coincidence I guess. I can guarantee you 95% + of 204 voters have no idea what was really spent on MVHS...none. Yet the papers continue to go out of their way to call it a $124M high school. Why is that ? I think we know |
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Post by doctorwho on May 20, 2010 21:03:55 GMT -6
Lot of email chatter amongst the rank and file. So much so that the email system is now down. Interesting. Also why won't the district admin release the stipend list? The page identifying who makes what in stipends the admin is refusing to release. Why, what is being hidden? Every other contract it has been released when a contract has been brought firth to ratify. Yet this year it is missing and now word is our fine admin will not release it? Kathy why? So much for transparency. Word has it only 120 to 140 showed at the contract presentation out of 2,000. Either apathy or anger from what was leaked about the contract. This one is betting on anger. Stay tuned but a yes vote may not be what happens next week. gee, a no vote couldn't happen could it - they've already promised the press there is an agreement  transparency ? in 204 - hahahahha You mean like the accounting cost sheets for the 3rd high school we'll never see... |
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Post by southsidesignmaker on May 20, 2010 21:05:32 GMT -6
It is obvious that many in the teaching profession have considered the good of the complete district when ratifying this contract.
I am a bit puzzled that no one brought up this observation before now.
I guess there are few on this board that peer through the "rose colored glasses" as I do regarding our district.
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Post by doctorwho on May 20, 2010 21:12:20 GMT -6
It is obvious that many in the teaching profession have considered the good of the complete district when ratifying this contract. I am a bit puzzled that no one brought up this observation before now. I guess there are few on this board that peer through the "rose colored glasses" as I do regarding our district. My rose colored glases ( circa 2006 ) were knocked from my face and then trampled upon...in a series of events that even when one looks back you can't believe they all happened and were set up perfectly... from completely snowing the public on attendance estimates after a failed vote, demonizing a SB member and anti tax group and one neighborhood in one fell swoop, staying just inside the law on bond financing years before construction, quick take/condemnation - then surprisingly win and turn it down, buying a piece of land no one wanted and bidding it up against only ourselves to ensure a certain developer didn't get the land sale even though costs would have been less - placement of an uneeded school in an area furthest from population center-- and on and on and on.... My rose colored glasses - which I once wore also - are long long gone nothing , but nothing is done here without alterior motives or without a lot of planning and groundwork to grease the skids |
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Post by Arch on May 20, 2010 21:17:05 GMT -6
SSSM,
Are you saying the contract is already ratified ?
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Post by district204 on May 20, 2010 21:43:22 GMT -6
Southsidesignmaker
not sure who your source is but as of 10 minutes ago many teachers had confirmed this is not ratified at all as Justin tried to lead everyone to believe. As a matter of fact the growing sentiment is the admin did not follow through at all on cuts, did not address the union paying admin insurance and quite frankly now have zero trust in the admin this deal is in anyones best interest.
As I said before I would not be surprised if a no vote did occur. When the admin begins to care then the rest will. A growing sentiment? Maybe.
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Post by macrockett on May 20, 2010 22:08:07 GMT -6
It is obvious that many in the teaching profession have considered the good of the complete district when ratifying this contract. I am a bit puzzled that no one brought up this observation before now. I guess there are few on this board that peer through the "rose colored glasses" as I do regarding our district. You and others live in a world of denial SSSM. You fail to do your due diligence and, therefore, you are able to put on those rose colored glasses. If that works for you, fine. Some of us do our homework and come to the conclusions we have. If there is a single thing that I have said on this board that isn't true please let me know. If anyone thinks that next year will be any different than this year, unless the Federal Government puts us further in debt by continuing to bail out the States, you aren't doing your homework. |
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Post by casey on May 21, 2010 7:13:09 GMT -6
Lot of email chatter amongst the rank and file. So much so that the email system is now down. Interesting. Also why won't the district admin release the stipend list? The page identifying who makes what in stipends the admin is refusing to release. Why, what is being hidden? Every other contract it has been released when a contract has been brought firth to ratify. Yet this year it is missing and now word is our fine admin will not release it? Kathy why? So much for transparency. Word has it only 120 to 140 showed at the contract presentation out of 2,000. Either apathy or anger from what was leaked about the contract. This one is betting on anger. Stay tuned but a yes vote may not be what happens next week. Thank you district204 for your posting. I appreciate the info you are sharing. I hope like you said that the community as well as the 204 teachers/staff are waking up to the shell games being played by the admin and SB regarding admin salaries and benefits. As you said the public should be outraged. Believe me, I do NOT want to see a strike but I can see why the rank and file have had enough of the BS of our 204 administration. Where's the transparency. |
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Post by lacy on May 21, 2010 7:54:29 GMT -6
Interesting the admin was suppose to make cuts. As of today the only verified cuts the admin has made is releasing two elementary school vice principals one of which went from a vice principal and in human resources to student services. The third went from the CEC back into the classroom. So how much did Admin really cut? Amazing they just think this will not get out and or the public won't care. What they do well with the school board is keep the spot light shining everywhere but on themselves or their puppet board. So it now has come to light the stipend table with identifiable positions tied to the scale is being witheld and only one VP at an elementary building was let go. Once again why is there no public outcry? My observation is that there is only "outcry" when it directly affects someone. Otherwise, people sit silently. For example, I heard no outcry when 2 neighborhoods were referred to as racist (other than the neighborhoods themselves). No teachers who knew families spoke up, no other neighborhoods said anything (with a few exceptions). It seems that each group (whether it be parents, teachers, admin) take care of themselves. This attitude has been very disappointing to me. It seems a community should care about each other - and that seems to be missing here. Especially when one considers the fact that we're talking about KIDS! They perpetually seem to be used by whomever - the governor, the school board, etc. |
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Post by asmodeus on May 21, 2010 12:42:42 GMT -6
I've never heard of a strike where the main point of contention was the compensation of another group (such as the admins). It would be interesting if that is essentially what happens.
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Post by southsidesignmaker on May 21, 2010 18:59:35 GMT -6
Arch, No only that I hope it is ratified.
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