Odd question about perceptions

[Arch]

In the interest of 'fairness', under the referendum (if it passes):

Why does WVHS and the new HS have to house all 4 grades under the same roof, yet NVHS does not?

On the surface, splitting the enrollment evenly amongst all 3 looks well and good on paper, but it seems unbalanced or playing favorites when looked at from this angle.

Is this in anticipation of future build out, and in the meantime NVHS has the cake and eats it too with even less 'crowding' than the other schools?

[fence]

archwinsome said:

In the interest of 'fairness', under the referendum (if it passes):

Why does WVHS and the new HS have to house all 4 grades under the same roof, yet NVHS does not?

On the surface, splitting the enrollment evenly amongst all 3 looks well and good on paper, but it seems unbalanced or playing favorites when looked at from this angle.

Is this in anticipation of future build out, and in the meantime NVHS has the cake and eats it too with even less 'crowding' than the other schools?

What makes you say NVHS has their cake and eats it too? Because they have a Fr. Campus?

I'm not sure I follow. Can you clarify?

[204taxpayer]

It was my understanding that it was easier to convert the WV gold campus to a middle school as the WV main campus had more physical space inside of it to house a freshman campus within the building. I could be wrong. (although I don't really think you can call it a freshman center if it is within the building, sounds kind of silly if the purpose is to isolate the 9th graders for social/less intimidation type reasons)

[gumby]

archwinsome said:

In the interest of 'fairness', under the referendum (if it passes):

Why does WVHS and the new HS have to house all 4 grades under the same roof, yet NVHS does not?

On the surface, splitting the enrollment evenly amongst all 3 looks well and good on paper, but it seems unbalanced or playing favorites when looked at from this angle.

Is this in anticipation of future build out, and in the meantime NVHS has the cake and eats it too with even less 'crowding' than the other schools?

I guess my question is, what is the big deal? Personally I prefer an under one roof concept, particularly if it means traveling.

I am not saying you are doing this, but these types of questions from a no voter always make me question whether it is not an attempt to create further divisiveness, or at least to get the undecideds over to the no side, rather than being an actual inquiry.

[gatormom]

Thanks Gumby. I did not know how to address that one. I too prefer the under one roof. My son went through the freshman center at WV and I don't think it made a difference either way.

My biggest problem with the freshman center is the counselor situation. You have a counselor assigned for one year as a freshman and then get a new one for soph, jr., and sr year. My son has ADHD and is on a 504 plan, just when you get used to a counselor and get the kinks worked out, you change schools and counselors.

Hopefully IFRP and we get freshman under one roof for two of the schools, they will have only one counselor for the entire four years.

[fence]

I think its totally acceptable for NV to have the Fr. Campus because a) it is much more "walkable" than WV Fr. Campus, b) it is where the growth is, c) it is a fair trade - smaller school w/ 4 grade levels vs. larger school w/ Fr. Campus, d) I have not heard such raving commentary on the Fr. Campus format that I would consider it to be a boon one way or the other and e) it lets more people stay at NV and that's what they want anyway.

If they had left the Fr. Campus at WV, there would be holy rolling revolution about how it could be OK for the red headed stepchild WV to have a "mega" school but not fine for anyone else.

Personally, I would prefer the traditional 4 year school. We had split campuses when I was in HS and I hated it. It was hard to get to sports back and forth between campuses, it was hard to make any friends beyond your own grade, kids on your team were not in your school, you had to be the "new guy" twice and find your way around. I really thought it sucked.

[proschool]

Don't foget that if NV looses the freshman campus you need to move at least two more elementary schools from the NV attendance area. No thanks.

[wvhsparent]

204taxpayer said:

It was my understanding that it was easier to convert the WV gold campus to a middle school as the WV main campus had more physical space inside of it to house a freshman campus within the building. I could be wrong. (although I don't really think you can call it a freshman center if it is within the building, sounds kind of silly if the purpose is to isolate the 9th graders for social/less intimidation type reasons)

It's more because of the way the 7 additions were added onto WVHS that makes it more suitable to create the Freshman campus atmosphere inside the main building. The busy intersection of Rt34 and Eola was another factor. NVHS is going to still be pretty full even with 2 buildings.

[starfish]

Can anyone tell me when the WV Gold campus would be converted to a MS. Would it be when the new high school has been completed or some time sooner?

[wvhsparent]

I would convert to a MS when/if the new HS opens.

[fence]

Yes, I heard that the campus would be converted concurrently with the new HS opening. There would be no other way to do it.

[Arch]

Perhaps my wording was ill-chosen. Let me try another way to get the thought out:

I was asking because one one hand, conversations indicate the HS populations are going to be split 3 ways near-evenly and on the other I understand that doesn't always work out that way.

The inequity being seen/perceived in the 3-way split scenerio is this:

2 Schools w/ their population in 1 building.
1 School w/ their population split amongst 2 buildings, giving the feeling of more 'elbow' room in the HS because 1/3 of the population is in another separate building.

[momof3]

Arch -
I'm still not quite understanding your question, but if one of the high schools had to keep their freshman campus, I would absolutely pick NV, just based on safety. There are students going back and forth, and Eola/Rt 34 is a very busy intersection.

[Arch]

Why not close that campus too (NVFC) and save the operating expenses. If a 3rd HS solves the population problem, why keep the campus at all?

[fence]

archwinsome said:

Perhaps my wording was ill-chosen. Let me try another way to get the thought out:

I was asking because one one hand, conversations indicate the HS populations are going to be split 3 ways near-evenly and on the other I understand that doesn't always work out that way.

The inequity being seen/perceived in the 3-way split scenerio is this:

2 Schools w/ their population in 1 building.
1 School w/ their population split amongst 2 buildings, giving the feeling of more 'elbow' room in the HS because 1/3 of the population is in another separate building.

But the population is not really in a 3 way split though. Its more of a 30%/30%/40% split. The new school and WV will each have 30% of the students and NV will have 40%. The main campuses will have the same number of students in them - 3000ish - even though NV main will house 3000ish students from 3 grade levels instead of 4.