SUN LTE's 3/24

[doctorwho]

brad204 said:

sushi said:

What a guy, Brad! Ever hear of paper plates?

Great posts, I think it's all legal wranglings also.

I believe something about paper plates came out of my mouth last night. Surrounded by explatives

I really do not know what the situaiton is. So, I figured I would toss out my current thinking. I think not seeing the TRO last week sort of made me wonder. I was not near a keyboard but sMom pretty much captured my thoughts last week. If we as a tax payer are gonna end of paying for this lawsuit, could we at least get a TRO to limits the future costs.

Edit - If the case is not strong enough or the group not well funded enough to make a TRO happen then well some soul searching needs to be done.. For me this is the 400lbs gorrilla in the room.

nsfoc needs to keep funds for the legal battle or else the TRO won't matter much. The TRO only saves the SB from themselves ( and saves us from the SB ) - if they are reckless enough to sign away - remember we voted them in.

If they're right, and the nsfoc lawsuit fails, and BB gets no other $$ except the 'mere' $5M we've already got earmarked for Mr Helm...then there's no risk.

If they're wrong ( not without precedence here) - yes the 3rd HS ingeneral could be at risk -- as many have told me here before- we elected them to make the decisions - well... it's their ball.

[WeBe204]

cb said:

WeBe, are you more concerned about the NSFOC lawsuit or the BB lawsuit? or neither?
In my mind the BB attorneys are to be feared. They seem to be able to argue alot better than ours.

Oh, I am concerned about both. Do not get me wrong. You can go back a few days and see all these items are in my top four concerns. I posted them over and over again. I just not convinced any of these concerns will slow down the process... That is all.

I

[doctorwho]

brad204 said:

cb said:

WeBe, are you more concerned about the NSFOC lawsuit or the BB lawsuit? or neither?
In my mind the BB attorneys are to be feared. They seem to be able to argue alot better than ours.

Oh, I am concerned about both. Do not get me wrong. You can go back a few days and see all these items are in my top four concerns. I posted them over and over again. I just not convinced any of these concerns will slow down the process... That is all.

I

keep thinking we're headed this way, but we can't hear the whistle..............

[Arch]

Virtually every piece of land is always for sale.

[steckmom]

doctorwho said:

brad204 said:

I believe something about paper plates came out of my mouth last night. Surrounded by explatives

I really do not know what the situaiton is. So, I figured I would toss out my current thinking. I think not seeing the TRO last week sort of made me wonder. I was not near a keyboard but sMom pretty much captured my thoughts last week. If we as a tax payer are gonna end of paying for this lawsuit, could we at least get a TRO to limits the future costs.

Edit - If the case is not strong enough or the group not well funded enough to make a TRO happen then well some soul searching needs to be done.. For me this is the 400lbs gorrilla in the room.

nsfoc needs to keep funds for the legal battle or else the TRO won't matter much. The TRO only saves the SB from themselves ( and saves us from the SB ) - if they are reckless enough to sign away - remember we voted them in.

If they're right, and the nsfoc lawsuit fails, and BB gets no other $$ except the 'mere' $5M we've already got earmarked for Mr Helm...then there's no risk.

If they're wrong ( not without precedence here) - yes the 3rd HS ingeneral could be at risk -- as many have told me here before- we elected them to make the decisions - well... it's their ball.

I see. So the whole initial slogan from the NSFOC is a lie?

"slow down, re-think and re-do"

So then, no attempt to slow down the SD is coming? Good to know.

[Arch]

steckmom said:

I see. So the whole initial slogan from the NSFOC was a lie?

"slow down, re-think and re-do"

So then, no attempt to slow down the SD is coming? Good to know.

I think there was too much in the water when it first started rolling. Not really surprising since various groups of people with various concerns pretty much came together at once and didn't take 8 months to plan out an agenda, mission statement, bylaws, etc.

It is because of these 'extras' that I chose to stay outside of the group since some of those 'issues' I did not share the same opinion on. Personal choice only.

[doctorwho]

steckmom said:

doctorwho said:

nsfoc needs to keep funds for the legal battle or else the TRO won't matter much. The TRO only saves the SB from themselves ( and saves us from the SB ) - if they are reckless enough to sign away - remember we voted them in.

If they're right, and the nsfoc lawsuit fails, and BB gets no other $$ except the 'mere' $5M we've already got earmarked for Mr Helm...then there's no risk.

If they're wrong ( not without precedence here) - yes the 3rd HS ingeneral could be at risk -- as many have told me here before- we elected them to make the decisions - well... it's their ball.

I see. So the whole initial slogan from the NSFOC is a lie?

"slow down, re-think and re-do"

So then, no attempt to slow down the SD is coming? Good to know.

IMHO - the law suit itself should be sufficient for rational people to slow down and think this through - we'll see however. The market on fibs, " I didn't mean what I said" s and half truths has been captured by another entity.

[jftb]

cb said:

Is the SB going to play "chicken" with the BB attorneys? If they go ahead and purchase the Eola property without knowing what the damages are, they are seriously incompetent.
If the damages are large, as in what the Sun claimed they could be, a rational person would think that BB still has a chance. Are we going to hand over 20MM for nothing and then go purchase Eola?? IMO the BB lawsuit should be holding back the SB from closing on the Eola land.

I would certainly hope that our incompetent school board would have enough sense to think that they should wait on Eola's purchase until they know what's going to go on with BB.

I know people are very upset thinking that we'll all be funding the SB lawyers who will be fighting the NSFOC lawsuit, but seriously, fighting the BB lawyers is MUCH more costly!!!!! It's very popular right now to dislike TG and WE (why, why, why.....such amazing people....I digress) so everyone seems so up in arms about the cost of fighting that lawsuit. WAKE UP!!!! The NSFOC lawsuit may never get past summary judgment. We've already lost MILLIONS in legal fees (both ours and theirs) trying to acquire BB. Now we're looking at DAMAGES too. Stop hating your neighbors and start focusing your ire where it belongs:

Metzger and crew.

[plainfield204]

"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"

I think this should be the SB's new slogan.

My thinking is they are going to keep executing on Eola until something "sinks the ship".

With $91 million buckets, it's gonna take a lot...

[Arch]

Proverbs 16:18

[steckmom]

napermom said:

cb said:

Is the SB going to play "chicken" with the BB attorneys? If they go ahead and purchase the Eola property without knowing what the damages are, they are seriously incompetent.
If the damages are large, as in what the Sun claimed they could be, a rational person would think that BB still has a chance. Are we going to hand over 20MM for nothing and then go purchase Eola?? IMO the BB lawsuit should be holding back the SB from closing on the Eola land.

I would certainly hope that our incompetent school board would have enough sense to think that they should wait on Eola's purchase until they know what's going to go on with BB.

I know people are very upset thinking that we'll all be funding the SB lawyers who will be fighting the NSFOC lawsuit, but seriously, fighting the BB lawyers is MUCH more costly!!!!! It's very popular right now to dislike TG and WE (why, why, why.....such amazing people....I digress) so everyone seems so up in arms about the cost of fighting that lawsuit. WAKE UP!!!! The NSFOC lawsuit may never get past summary judgment. We've already lost MILLIONS in legal fees (both ours and theirs) trying to acquire BB. Now we're looking at DAMAGES too. Stop hating your neighbors and start focusing your ire where it belongs:

Metzger and crew.

I don't hate anyone. But right now I don't like the NSFOC or the SB. Yes, I'm completely annoyed that the SB has wasted our money with the BB fiasco. But that doesn't mean I can't be annoyed about the lawsuit as well. It's equal opportunity irritation.

[WeBe204]

archwinsome said:

Proverbs 16:18

Us public school kids had to look that up...


"Pride goes before destruction"

[jftb]

steckmom said:

napermom said:

I would certainly hope that our incompetent school board would have enough sense to think that they should wait on Eola's purchase until they know what's going to go on with BB.

I know people are very upset thinking that we'll all be funding the SB lawyers who will be fighting the NSFOC lawsuit, but seriously, fighting the BB lawyers is MUCH more costly!!!!! It's very popular right now to dislike TG and WE (why, why, why.....such amazing people....I digress) so everyone seems so up in arms about the cost of fighting that lawsuit. WAKE UP!!!! The NSFOC lawsuit may never get past summary judgment. We've already lost MILLIONS in legal fees (both ours and theirs) trying to acquire BB. Now we're looking at DAMAGES too. Stop hating your neighbors and start focusing your ire where it belongs:

Metzger and crew.

I don't hate anyone. But right now I don't like the NSFOC or the SB. Yes, I'm completely annoyed that the SB has wasted our money with the BB fiasco. But that doesn't mean I can't be annoyed about the lawsuit as well. It's equal opportunity irritation.

You're right. You can be annoyed with both groups. Do try to remember that you bought your house in the Steck area knowing that you would go to WV. When you voted for or against the referendum, your area would go to WV. You still will go to WV. That is not the case for many people. They have not been able to enjoy the same level of consistency. The more we can all try to walk in their shoes and see things from their perspective, the more things may (or may not I suppose) make sense.

One of my friends in 203 told me this afternoon that she's heard the buzz around town that people would have a lot more respect for NSFOC if they would come out and say that they simply don't like the boundaries, not focus on the problems at the Eola site or the bait and switch mentality of the referendum. I think that to be an untrue statement. I think people have bought into the school board's negative energy about TG and WE, and that is really a sad thing. Some kind of leadership we have.

I am very, very angry at the SB and do not want to see the same sense of apathy that came after the last boundary nightmare settle in again. I do not want to see signs around this town supporting Metzger (oh sorry, M2 as he refers to himself) and crew in the next election, whether you like the boundaries or not. They have done a rotten job mismanaging our money, our community and our kids. I worry that people's anger will be redirected away from the SB; that is the point of my posts.

[steckmom]

napermom said:

They have done a rotten job mismanaging our money, our community and our kids. I worry that people's anger will be redirected away from the SB; that is the point of my posts.

I'm not without sympathy and I don't think there are any guarantees that Steck will remain at WV if the Eola site is built. I'm not happy about that either.

Also, I think you are right that this lawsuit is resulting in anger being directed away from the SB. There seems to be tendency on both sides to see all these issues in black and white, as well as a tendency to see one party good and the other evil.

[mandmmom]

steckmom said:

napermom said:

They have done a rotten job mismanaging our money, our community and our kids. I worry that people's anger will be redirected away from the SB; that is the point of my posts.

I'm not without sympathy and I don't think there are any guarantees that Steck will remain at WV if the Eola site is built. I'm not happy about that either.

Also, I think you are right that this lawsuit is resulting in anger being directed away from the SB. There seems to be tendency on both sides to see all these issues in black and white, as well as a tendency to see one party good and the other evil.

I am surprised that the LTEs are slated to certain neighborhoods and not the SB. It amazes me that more people are not upset with the amount of $ the SB has wasted and continues to waste...especially in this economy. IMO, this is unacceptable and we are going down a dangerous road with our SB and I hope someone is able to stop them before they bankrupt 204.