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Post by westernburbmom on Feb 10, 2008 0:15:20 GMT -6
Proschool:
Thank you for your quick response.
This site is a great source of information.
The anticipation of the boundaries is starting to get to me. Tuesday morning I will be waking up in the wee morning hours. The very first thing I'm going to do is turn on my computer and check this website, even before looking at the District 204 home page. Let's hope the information will be available early. Has anyone heard a time?
If I'm feeling this way (and I could go with either WVHS or Metea), I could only imagine what some parents are going through that really want a specific school for their child. Let's hope that the School Board will come up with boundaries that will work best for all of our students!
A special thanks to all of the members of the IPSD 204 Discussion Board who have provided such valuable information!
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Post by researching on Feb 10, 2008 1:56:38 GMT -6
Momof156graders- I did submit a boundary proposal and I received back the following e-mail Thank you for your proposal. - Dr. Kathy Birkett yep - same response Uh oh!  I submitted 2 boundary proposals, one accounting for walkers and one not. I sent my proposals to the boundary email address provided on the ipsd website as well as to Dr. D, Dr. Birkett, and all SB members individually. I did not receive ANY response from Dr. Birkett. I did however, hear back from Alka saying that she would review the info. She was the only acknowledgement. Thanks Alka! I wonder why I didn't get the same response as you all. |
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Post by Arch on Feb 10, 2008 8:47:09 GMT -6
The SB declared it unsafe two years ago, due to electromagnetic radiation. I think they should definitely be heavily questioned as to the turnaround in opinion regarding the site's safety. Were they wrong the first time or are they wrong now? When people have seen the SB shift their opinions to fit their agenda, it should make us question what the reality is. I think they should be so thorough that there is no room for error in this matter. MWGEN was still in service at that time. From my understanding of the Board Meeting, the Phase II study is as a result of concerned parents and also the fact that they found deisel oil from the trucks that were parked there in soil samples. MWGEN is responsible for cleaning the site to EPA(?) or whatever standards. It is not a sick site, and I'm tired of people who have never even seen it commenting on it. It was announced and decided by MWGEN to decomission the site in Sep 2004. They 'officially' did it in Dec 2004 according to their SEC filings. The last time it was actually used (fired) was Sep 04. When was the original site report done? MWGEN is only responsible for cleaning the site as long as we hold them to it. If we sign an indemnification like they did for ComEd, then we are screwed. This is another thing that people do not understand that was misrepresented by the SB. A particular board member said there's nothing to worry about because MWGEN's parent company has deep pockets. We can not touch their parent company because of the environmental indemnification that was part of the sales contract for the plant from ComEd to MWGEN. The Diesel Oil 'from the trucks' means what? Who's speculation was this? From a certain point of view, it's probably right because the diesel fuel oil was brought to the site via trucks but people take away from that the assumption that it was a tiny oil leak from a vehicle and not anything worse. Their numbers for Stock supply for DFO in 1993 still do not add up. I posted data where they show over 600 barrels (1 barrel = 42 gallons) of DFO *MISSING* and unaccounted for in the production of electricity. It went somewhere. So where did that go? 25,200 gallons of DFO is not a minor thing by any stretch of the imagination. |
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Post by wvhsparent on Feb 10, 2008 9:15:03 GMT -6
WVHS P did you notice this was a revised report and refers to a follow up observation? What was the intial observation? What prompted a follow up? Did you notice the standards used were occupational standards, which implies adults? People have asked to see the raw data for the site, the full report, and not just the summarized opinion of the retained firm. I would not say the site is safe or unsafe, it is not a field that I am expert in. But the SD has an obligation to answer questions and parent's concerns and I will defend anyone's right to ask, especially in regards to their children's well being. "i know whatever they do will not be good enough for you, and that's too bad". Too bad for who? The SD? The kids who attend the school? The parents who have concerns? I have not seen anyone label the site dangerous or unsafe, merely ask questions. People have asked for the raw data where? Here?... This does not count, you have to contact the SD and request those initial (pre-followup) reports. When you get them, please be sure to post them for the rest of us. I am happy with the info provided so far. Apparently you and I have not been reading the same postings on this site. several posters ( one in particular) has posted many claims that site is "unsafe" to them. |
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Post by doctorwho on Feb 10, 2008 9:16:54 GMT -6
This is my first post, so I'm going to quickly "introduce myself". I have one child at Steck (a walker) and one at Granger (takes the bus about 4 miles away). I've read earlier posts of people wondering what Steck/McCarty residents thought, so I thought I would throw in my two cents. I can go either way on which high school my children will attend i.e. WVHS is 1 1/2 miles away by bus, is well established and we know numerous college kids in the neighbhorhood who did great at WVHS. Metea is a commute not much different than my Granger student has now and it would be nice to stay at Granger and continue with the Nancy Young and Stonebridge students (who I'm assuming will be going to Metea). But, Tuesday can't get here soon enough. From what I've been reading under this topic, I was almost convinced we will be continuing at Steck, then Granger and onto Metea. However, last night a neighbor told me "absoutely not", that we are walkers and she heard that it hasn't been decided whether the dividing line will be New York Street or Liberty for who will attend Metea. Who she heard this from, she did not say. Also, I recently talked to a Steck Mom who lives in Lakewood (subdivision along Ogden between Eola & Montgomery) and she told me there is speculation that Lakewood will be switched to McCarty from Steck. Is that because they are walkers to WVHS? So, I'm really confused. Should I just "sit tight" until Tuesday. Is this all speculation or rumor? Did I miss something? Weclome -- always glad to have new posters and perspectives.... yep imagine Tuesday if realistically you can be assigned to any of of 3 HS's -- one a 10-12 minute busride for your kids, one 15-18 minutes - and one 40-45 minutes and all signs poiting towards the SD sending you to the one 45 minutes away because they can't fill the school with people close due to the site location. at least 2 and maybe 3 areas looking at this scenario... but I feel for everyone who will be uprooted to go somewhere they do not want to go when the announcement is made. |
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Post by wvhsparent on Feb 10, 2008 9:25:10 GMT -6
This is my first post, so I'm going to quickly "introduce myself". I have one child at Steck (a walker) and one at Granger (takes the bus about 4 miles away). I've read earlier posts of people wondering what Steck/McCarty residents thought, so I thought I would throw in my two cents. I can go either way on which high school my children will attend i.e. WVHS is 1 1/2 miles away by bus, is well established and we know numerous college kids in the neighborhood who did great at WVHS. Metea is a commute not much different than my Granger student has now and it would be nice to stay at Granger and continue with the Nancy Young and Stonebridge students (who I'm assuming will be going to Metea). But, Tuesday can't get here soon enough. From what I've been reading under this topic, I was almost convinced we will be continuing at Steck, then Granger and onto Metea. However, last night a neighbor told me "absolutely not", that we are walkers and she heard that it hasn't been decided whether the dividing line will be New York Street or Liberty for who will attend Metea. Who she heard this from, she did not say. Also, I recently talked to a Steck Mom who lives in Lakewood (subdivision along Ogden between Eola & Montgomery) and she told me there is speculation that Lakewood will be switched to McCarty from Steck. Is that because they are walkers to WVHS? So, I'm really confused. Should I just "sit tight" until Tuesday. Is this all speculation or rumor? Did I miss something? Welcome aboard. I hope you become a frequent poster. There are alot of rumors flying around. I don't think anyone here has discussed any specific rumors regarding Steck. We do know that that they are trying to avoid splitting elementary schools at all and avoiding splitting middle schools. We have noticed that the old rule of never bussing walkers was not discussed by the SB this time. Instead Dr. D said something about minimizing transportation costs. Some are some from Steck who walk to WVHS but some of us are wondering is sending Steck to MVHS would increase transportation costs at all since many of the walkers may be added to bus routes already in the neighborhood and the new bussers may be eligible for transportation funds. Members here have looked at MV as a school that needs to be filled. Obviously Young, Brooks, Brookdale and Longwood will go to MV but hen you need two or three more schools. Steck looks like a strong possibility because of its relationship with Granger and the fact that it is a reasonable commute. We can only guess on the effects of transportation costs based on what we know here. Yes...welcome aboard westsubmom! It's nice to here from Oakhurst on this...I used to live there too. I am glad to hear that it sounds like Steck is open to the idea of going to MVHS.....I know you are only 1 person, along with steckmom That should then bode well for the possibilty of MW staying at WVHS. |
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Post by doctorwho on Feb 10, 2008 9:28:07 GMT -6
Welcome aboard. I hope you become a frequent poster. There are alot of rumors flying around. I don't think anyone here has discussed any specific rumors regarding Steck. We do know that that they are trying to avoid splitting elementary schools at all and avoiding splitting middle schools. We have noticed that the old rule of never bussing walkers was not discussed by the SB this time. Instead Dr. D said something about minimizing transportation costs. Some are some from Steck who walk to WVHS but some of us are wondering is sending Steck to MVHS would increase transportation costs at all since many of the walkers may be added to bus routes already in the neighborhood and the new bussers may be eligible for transportation funds. Members here have looked at MV as a school that needs to be filled. Obviously Young, Brooks, Brookdale and Longwood will go to MV but hen you need two or three more schools. Steck looks like a strong possibility because of its relationship with Granger and the fact that it is a reasonable commute. We can only guess on the effects of transportation costs based on what we know here. Yes...welcome abourd WSBM! It's nice to here from Oakhurst on this...I used to live there too. I am glad to hear that it sounds like Steck is open to the idea of going to MVHS.....I know you are only 1 person. That should then bode well for the possibilty of MW staying at WVHS. only if they move us from Hill- as otherwise we would be that split they don't want - wouldn't bother me, but would not fit their criteria. In order to move us out they have to move a fairly large area in -- your area could be a start - but scratching my head as to where the rest come from. |
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Post by wvhsparent on Feb 10, 2008 9:32:21 GMT -6
Yes...welcome abourd WSBM! It's nice to here from Oakhurst on this...I used to live there too. I am glad to hear that it sounds like Steck is open to the idea of going to MVHS.....I know you are only 1 person. That should then bode well for the possibilty of MW staying at WVHS. only if they move us from Hill- as otherwise we would be that split they don't want - wouldn't bother me, but would not fit their criteria. In order to move us out they have to move a fairly large area in -- your area could be a start - but scratching my head as to where the rest come from. Well they do have a complete MS they are going to have to fill too. so a possibity is MW goes to Still and a current Still school, such as Gombert, or Georgetown, goes to the 7th MS...or even MW gets sent to the 7th MS. Possible? |
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Post by Arch on Feb 10, 2008 9:34:20 GMT -6
only if they move us from Hill- as otherwise we would be that split they don't want - wouldn't bother me, but would not fit their criteria. In order to move us out they have to move a fairly large area in -- your area could be a start - but scratching my head as to where the rest come from. Well they do have a complete MS they are going to have to fill too. so a possibity is MW goes to Still and a current Still school, such as Gombert, goes to the 7th MS...or even MW gets sent to the 7th MS. Possible? I'd send my kids to Plano if it meant they did not have to go to a HS built at the MWGEN site. |
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Post by doctorwho on Feb 10, 2008 9:41:10 GMT -6
only if they move us from Hill- as otherwise we would be that split they don't want - wouldn't bother me, but would not fit their criteria. In order to move us out they have to move a fairly large area in -- your area could be a start - but scratching my head as to where the rest come from. Well they do have a complete MS they are going to have to fill too. so a possibity is MW goes to Still and a current Still school, such as Gombert, or Georgetown, goes to the 7th MS...or even MW gets sent to the 7th MS. Possible? We are hoping - either one works |
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Post by doctorwho on Feb 10, 2008 9:43:27 GMT -6
Well they do have a complete MS they are going to have to fill too. so a possibity is MW goes to Still and a current Still school, such as Gombert, goes to the 7th MS...or even MW gets sent to the 7th MS. Possible? I'd send my kids to Plano if it meant they did not have to go to a HS built at the MWGEN site. Well we'd be able to buy coach busses for every area - when you look at what Plainfield East cost $52M vs MV $146M -- heck the land in Plano likely even less than Plainfield |
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Post by wvhsparent on Feb 10, 2008 9:43:43 GMT -6
Well they do have a complete MS they are going to have to fill too. so a possibity is MW goes to Still and a current Still school, such as Gombert, goes to the 7th MS...or even MW gets sent to the 7th MS. Possible? I'd send my kids to Plano if it meant they did not have to go to a HS built at the MWGEN site. Go for it...nice and small...only 381 students...I am sure the opportunites abound there. |
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Post by Arch on Feb 10, 2008 9:57:01 GMT -6
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Post by wvhsparent on Feb 10, 2008 10:13:17 GMT -6
How many have you read thru that can be associated with the pipelines similar to one on the site? The 1st several I read (5) could not. |
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Post by rural on Feb 10, 2008 10:23:52 GMT -6
Keep workin' it, Arch. Who knows, maybe the SB will change their minds and go back to the BB site? |
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I submitted 2 boundary proposals, one accounting for walkers and one not. I sent my proposals to the boundary email address provided on the ipsd website as well as to Dr. D, Dr. Birkett, and all SB members individually. I did not receive ANY response from Dr. Birkett. I did however, hear back from Alka saying that she would review the info. She was the only acknowledgement. Thanks Alka!
