You get what you voted for

[supermomof4]

MARCH 21, 2006, GENERAL PRIMARY ELECTION – PROPOSITIONS

22. INDIAN PRAIRIE COMMUNITY UNIT SCHOOL DISTRICT NUMBER 204 PROPOSITION TO ISSUE $124,660,000.00 SCHOOL BUILDING BONDS

Shall the Board of Education of Indian Prairie Community Unit School District Number 204, DuPage and Will Counties, Illinois, acquire and improve a high school site, build and equip one new high school building and issue the bonds of said School District to the amount of $124,660,000.00 for the purpose of paying the costs thereof?

Proposition 22, page 6 of this PDF is the referendum ballot text.

cms.dupageelections.com/uploads/JID37_3%2021%2006%20Props_2_3_06%20-%20Unofficial.pdf


Location promised? NO
Boundaries promised? NO
Price promised? NO

You people who are crying that you were fooled by the SD are correct.

You voted yes to give the SD $124 million to build a third HS. That is it!

This Referendum only states that the district needs $124 million to build a high school. It does not promise the location or the boundaries. It also does not say the high school will only cost $124 million.

Your fault for trusting empty promises.

[d204mom]

Ha! And we are supposed to trust the empty promise of 2009 opening with the Midwest Generation site!

And we trusted the board to really issue 124M in bonds, not 132 Million in bonds due to loopholes in the laws! SO forget even the 124 million, too!

HAHA! Adult voters are about as easy to fool as those kids that voted for their mascot and school colors and will never attend the school.

[supermomof4]

I agree that the 2009 date is very aggressive.

But I think/hope the SD would do everything they could to hit that date so they can at least gain a little bit of creditability.

[proschool]

I knew that everything could change and i agree with the school boards power to make the changes necessary.

What I don't like is getting half of the information sprung on us 7 days before a decision is to be made and not giving the school board adequate opportunity to listen to public input.


I WILL TRUST THE SCHOOL BOARD'S JUDGMENT IF THEY PRESENT US WITH THE FACTS AND HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THEY VOTE.

[WeBe204]

supermomof4 said:

I agree that the 2009 date is very aggressive.

But I think/hope the SD would do everything they could to hit that date so they can at least gain a little bit of creditability.

I think hoping is fine. Like people hoped for BB. But to continue to promise and manipulate the public with highly unlikely outcomes. It is not productive. Sooner or later (in this case later) public opinion changes.

Let me hope for something. The public opinion does not turn against the SD. Right now there is one person on the board that says No to just about everything that needs funding. What if you had 4 more in 2009? The public tires of this process and loses faith. Refs are not passed. The district starts to run out of operating funds. The district contracts and schools close. Period.

See, unlike most people I was never of the opinion SD204 was infinitely rich. I remember when they were cutting support staff left and right just a couple of years ago. I was not in the SD yet but a close friend (yes, second hand info) finally left the district after 9 years because it became such an incredible grind. It was not about the pay which was always way too low. It was about budgets being slashed across the board and people did not knowing if they would have jobs from one year to the next.

So, I guess my picture of the district is not so bright. And I find this lack of fiscal discipline horrific.

[jftb]

brad204 said:

supermomof4 said:

I agree that the 2009 date is very aggressive.

But I think/hope the SD would do everything they could to hit that date so they can at least gain a little bit of creditability.

I think hoping is fine. Like people hoped for BB. But to continue to promise and manipulate the public with highly unlikely outcomes. It is not productive. Sooner or later (in this case later) public opinion changes.

Let me hope for something. The public opinion does not turn against the SD. Right now there is one person on the board that says No to just about everything that needs funding. What if you had 4 more in 2009? The public tires of this process and loses faith. Refs are not passed. The district starts to run out of operating funds. The district contracts and schools close. Period.

See, unlike most people I was never of the opinion SD204 was infinitely rich. I remember when they were cutting support staff left and right just a couple of years ago. I was not in the SD yet but a close friend (yes, second hand info) finally left the district after 9 years because it became such an incredible grind. It was not about the pay which was always way too low. It was about budgets being slashed across the board and people did not knowing if they would have jobs from one year to the next.

So, I guess my picture of the district is not so bright. And I find this lack of fiscal discipline horrific.

Don't worry Brad204; people are incredibly forgetful when it comes to voting. Though they were fired up in Feb '06, when it came time to vote for SB members, they re-elected Metzger and Clark as if nothing had ever happened. Nutty!!!!

The SB will fire up the PTAs again when they need $$. Mommies will be banging on your car window while you're in the pickup line shoving "VOTE YES" pamplets at you and giving you threatening looks if you dare to question why. Worked last time.

[macy]

^wow, that's funny!

Couldn't agree more napermom, however somehow I think this type of situation will sit and fester with many for a long time.

This situation we are in does give much credence to the VOTE NO group. Many of us are feeling we should have listened to what they were saying about trusting the leaders of 204.


as slp has already stated... fool me once... etc.

ETA: Clark was not up for re-election this past year. It was Metzger, Bradshaw and Tyle.

Remember? Those were the folks that promised the voters that they had a plan B, C, D and E if BB fell through.

I remember. I promise I won't forget!

[WeBe204]

napermom said:

brad204 said:

I think hoping is fine. Like people hoped for BB. But to continue to promise and manipulate the public with highly unlikely outcomes. It is not productive. Sooner or later (in this case later) public opinion changes.

Let me hope for something. The public opinion does not turn against the SD. Right now there is one person on the board that says No to just about everything that needs funding. What if you had 4 more in 2009? The public tires of this process and loses faith. Refs are not passed. The district starts to run out of operating funds. The district contracts and schools close. Period.

See, unlike most people I was never of the opinion SD204 was infinitely rich. I remember when they were cutting support staff left and right just a couple of years ago. I was not in the SD yet but a close friend (yes, second hand info) finally left the district after 9 years because it became such an incredible grind. It was not about the pay which was always way too low. It was about budgets being slashed across the board and people did not knowing if they would have jobs from one year to the next.

So, I guess my picture of the district is not so bright. And I find this lack of fiscal discipline horrific.

Don't worry Brad204; people are incredibly forgetful when it comes to voting. Though they were fired up in Feb '06, when it came time to vote for SB members, they re-elected Metzger and Clark as if nothing had ever happened. Nutty!!!!

The SB will fire up the PTAs again when they need $$. Mommies will be banging on your car window while you're in the pickup line shoving "VOTE YES" pamplets at you and giving you threatening looks if you dare to question why. Worked last time.

The sad thing is you are so right

[hmmm]

napermom said:

Don't worry Brad204; people are incredibly forgetful when it comes to voting. Though they were fired up in Feb '06, when it came time to vote for SB members, they re-elected Metzger and Clark as if nothing had ever happened. Nutty!!!!

The SB will fire up the PTAs again when they need $$. Mommies will be banging on your car window while you're in the pickup line shoving "VOTE YES" pamplets at you and giving you threatening looks if you dare to question why. Worked last time.

That is too funny! LOL! ;D It was completely like that and worse! Thanks for the chuckle!

[macy]

I disagree. I think they have FINALLY mad the PTA mommies and daddies really angry.

We shall see!

[gumby]

hmmm said:

napermom said:

Don't worry Brad204; people are incredibly forgetful when it comes to voting. Though they were fired up in Feb '06, when it came time to vote for SB members, they re-elected Metzger and Clark as if nothing had ever happened. Nutty!!!!

The SB will fire up the PTAs again when they need $$. Mommies will be banging on your car window while you're in the pickup line shoving "VOTE YES" pamplets at you and giving you threatening looks if you dare to question why. Worked last time.

That is too funny! LOL! ;D It was completely like that and worse! Thanks for the chuckle!

If the latter is what it took to wake up the non-voters, so be it.

[hmmm]

For the record...I did not get what I voted for. I did NOT vote for a single encumbent. I just get to share the disappointment and frustration of those who did.

[hmmm]

macy said:

I disagree. I think they have FINALLY mad the PTA mommies and daddies really angry.

We shall see!

I hope you're right. If you are, it took A LOT to get them there.

[jftb]

ETA: Clark was not up for re-election this past year. It was Metzger, Bradshaw and Tyle.

Remember? Those were the folks that promised the voters that they had a plan B, C, D and E if BB fell through.

I remember. I promise I won't forget!


Sorry, guys, I had moved to 203 by then. My bad. I'm back in 204 now....rock on! Good times, guys

[d204mom]

napermom said:

brad204 said:

I think hoping is fine. Like people hoped for BB. But to continue to promise and manipulate the public with highly unlikely outcomes. It is not productive. Sooner or later (in this case later) public opinion changes.

Let me hope for something. The public opinion does not turn against the SD. Right now there is one person on the board that says No to just about everything that needs funding. What if you had 4 more in 2009? The public tires of this process and loses faith. Refs are not passed. The district starts to run out of operating funds. The district contracts and schools close. Period.

See, unlike most people I was never of the opinion SD204 was infinitely rich. I remember when they were cutting support staff left and right just a couple of years ago. I was not in the SD yet but a close friend (yes, second hand info) finally left the district after 9 years because it became such an incredible grind. It was not about the pay which was always way too low. It was about budgets being slashed across the board and people did not knowing if they would have jobs from one year to the next.

So, I guess my picture of the district is not so bright. And I find this lack of fiscal discipline horrific.

Don't worry Brad204; people are incredibly forgetful when it comes to voting. Though they were fired up in Feb '06, when it came time to vote for SB members, they re-elected Metzger and Clark as if nothing had ever happened. Nutty!!!!

The SB will fire up the PTAs again when they need $$. Mommies will be banging on your car window while you're in the pickup line shoving "VOTE YES" pamplets at you and giving you threatening looks if you dare to question why. Worked last time.

I hope next time will be different. I know I won't fall for the district's dire predictions next time.

The Brookdale PTA president stood up for the area and showed some backbone during the 2006 ref. As I recall that PTA voted to NOT endorse the ref and encouraged a NO vote from PTA members.

I am hopeful that if this thing gets railroaded through tonight before all questions are answered, more PTA presidents will stick up for what they think is right instead of doing what the admin tells them to.