CFO: Who are they?

[warriorpride]

marge said:

eagledad said:

I think the point of this thread is to get out in the public who CFO is, who their backers are, and shed any light on their motivations. I know I have learned a great deal more about Ari Rosenthal, who apparently is against all school referenda regardless of purpose or need, and Chuck Kern, who used to think we needed a 3rd school, but has apparently radically reversed course.

Marge, you seem to be getting uncomfortable with this exploration. Is there any reson we should not learn more about CFO and alternate motives they may have?

I think you should learn all you can, as should everyone. But I really don't believe that you didn't know their names before, so it looks more like you're trying to convince others of your point of view. As to "CFO plants", I guess their could be some, but I know I'm not. If anyone is uncomfortable, it looks like some of you, because you aren't talking about the merits of a passed referendum, you're talking about the opposition.

There are thousands of posts on this board discussing the merits of the referendum. This specific thread was started because we'd like to know what CFO's motive are for a failed referendum. The "options" proposed on their site don't seem particularly well thought-out, not do they seem to solve the real problems at hand.

Last year, they claimed that the referendum was too rushed, more information was needed. Well, we got it, but that's not good enough. And instead of promoting viable alternatives (for example, they still have CV's keep-the-6th-graders-in-ES idea on their site), they're spending a large portion of their effort using scare tactics, such as getting Brookdale worked up into more of a frenzy, and telling Fry that they'd better vote no because YES = Fry going to WV, and NO = Fry stays at NV.

If they don't really want to provide viable alternatives, what DO they want?

[d204mom]

warriorpride - I am with you. I am very unclear about CV's true motivation as well. She throws out a proposal to keep the 6th graders at ES. So, the SB has a special workshop to discuss this idea's merits and she doesn't show. Clearly, she has no interest in an alternate solution either, just a failed referendum.

[warriorpride]

I do know that at least one of the CFOers named here has older kids (HS). So, if you're really anti-referendum or anti-tax, and your kids wouldn't really be affected by the outcome, it's probably a lot easier to justify pushing the NO vote.

[title1parent]

I am so glad that their children got a great education off of my tax dollars and my voting yes to the past referendums to benefit their children, while mine will get ****.

[d204mom]

marge - surely you have to see that every justification for your no vote was planted by cfo

[marge]

d204mom said:

marge - surely you have to see that every justification for your no vote was planted by cfo

No, the justification for my no vote was cemented by our School Board after watching them in action and after listening carefully to them. Many others I know who are voting no feel the same way. Sorry.

[gumby]

marge said:

As for Fry to WVHS ITRP and Fry stays at NVHS ITRF, this isn't coming from CFO. We have every reason to believe it is true.

Based on what information do you believe this to be true? Fear mongering by the CFO? The fortune teller in downtown Naperville?

I would prefer to believe the SB, who has stated over and over that boundaries will not change. Could a different SB change the boundaries? Yes. But that could happen in any case.

If you think that holding back the yes vote will keep you safe and happy, I think you should give it some critical thought.

Regardless, since you are turning a blind eye to all the data that shows that there is/will be overcrowding at NV, please ITRF do not expect the taxpayers to bail you out later when you realize that you have made a mistake in your forecasts--just like the SB did years ago.

What goes around comes around. Trite but true.

[forthekids]

marge said:

forthekids said:

Don't put words in my mouth. Nowhere do I say that every NO voter doesn't have kids in the system.

Why is it that you think you can call people "selfish" and other things and not be rebuked for it?

I'm sorry. I thought I was being rebuked for saying all NO voters don't have kids in the system (which is not what I said). I did say that people are selfish and think only about their personal situation and not the community as a whole. I have stated this many times in past posts and will stick by that statement. If you feel I was hitting too close to home, that is your perception. I did not personally call you selfish. I don't know you. I can however state my opinion, as you have so eloquently stated in past posts, this is a free country and we have the right of free speech. You can't have it both ways. I have the same rights as you and therefore can speak my mind and my opinion.

[warriorpride]

marge said:

warriorpride said:

There are thousands of posts on this board discussing the merits of the referendum. This specific thread was started because we'd like to know what CFO's motive are for a failed referendum. The "options" proposed on their site don't seem particularly well thought-out, not do they seem to solve the real problems at hand.

Last year, they claimed that the referendum was too rushed, more information was needed. Well, we got it, but that's not good enough. And instead of promoting viable alternatives (for example, they still have CV's keep-the-6th-graders-in-ES idea on their site), they're spending a large portion of their effort using scare tactics, such as getting Brookdale worked up into more of a frenzy, and telling Fry that they'd better vote no because YES = Fry going to WV, and NO = Fry stays at NV.

If they don't really want to provide viable alternatives, what DO they want?

I believe that many current "No" voters aren't anit-referendum (and certainly not anti-kid), they just don't like this deal. The land site and situation is questionable at best and the enrollment/capacity issue is muddy. The SB has used different %'s at different times to justify their position. Many of us would like a functional capacity study and another look at the enrollment numbers before we hand over $125 million.

As for Fry to WVHS ITRP and Fry stays at NVHS ITRF, this isn't coming from CFO. We have every reason to believe it is true.

The cost, the location, the capacity, the enrollments, the conspiracy theories - it's all been covered in detail in other threads. Anyone can come up with reasons to vote against a referendum if they really want to, but there sure are a lot of reasons to vote for it.

The CFO leaders have, over time, been shown to be against ANY referendum. And, that's what this thread is about, so can we please stay on topic?

[warriorpride]

If we want to discuss something else about CFO & motives, how about the fact that Chuck ran for SB last year and lost? Hmm, CFO sure seems to take every possible opportunity to discredit the SB.

[forthekids]

notshy said:

I agree, Marge. I have kids at ES level and want the best education possible for them. I'm not selfish. But some of these folks are looking around and finding the one example of a couple or person who votes no just because their kids are gone. Then you project their selfish motivations on the rest of us who are looking at both sides and disagreeing with one group.

So it sounds like you are agreeing with me. The people who are voting NO because they no longer have kids in the system are being selfish. That's all I was saying. Thanks.

[gatormom]

Marge,
I suppose option 6 was perfect. It gave you exactly what you wanted. It gave BD exactly what they wanted. Were you the person who asked me at the orange-fest, "we thought about Gombert, but oh well. It makes everyone else happy, will you support us anyway?"

There was no perfect option. The boundaries are set. Vote yes, vote no. Your reasons are yours and are good enough for me. I do not believe that this SB will change the boundaries, is that the problem?

[warriorpride]

modified by topher

Marge, would you care to help us figure out who cfo is and what their motivations are?

[admin]

Stop it now. I will be deleting all posts that have nothing to do with this topic.

Go start a Tallgrass thread for the no basis of fact to the line

As for Fry to WVHS ITRP and Fry stays at NVHS ITRF, this isn't coming from CFO. We have every reason to believe it is true.

[sushi]

It has become apparent that, once again, there are two types of no voters. The ones who are money-conscious and the ones who are not going to NVHS.....ooops, forgot Ari & crew who have an unknown agenda.