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Post by rural on Apr 11, 2008 8:32:17 GMT -6
I'm still stewing. You mean like how NSFOC helped move into a new ear?
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Post by WeBe204 on Apr 11, 2008 8:33:04 GMT -6
Rural, I would like to know what you are advocating up at Eola/Molitor? A condemnation suit against the church? A school on 49 acres? I'm not advocating anything. If we cannot build on the entire remediated MWGEN/AME parcel, it ain't gonna happen. It won't happen at BB because we can't afford it. So that leaves us with Hamman (the enviro there is just as bad if not worse than AME) or Macom. So perhaps, Ashwood may have the shortest commute after all. ETA: Of course there's also the cram 'em in approach. hehe, you are bating me. I am so staying out of that discussion. |
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Post by rural on Apr 11, 2008 8:34:30 GMT -6
I'm sorry Sashimi. I'm not buying the whole "We've got what we wanted. Now let's all try to get along" crap. You are an NSFOC supporter?
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Post by rural on Apr 11, 2008 8:35:45 GMT -6
I'm not advocating anything. If we cannot build on the entire remediated MWGEN/AME parcel, it ain't gonna happen. It won't happen at BB because we can't afford it. So that leaves us with Hamman (the enviro there is just as bad if not worse than AME) or Macom. So perhaps, Ashwood may have the shortest commute after all. ETA: Of course there's also the cram 'em in approach. hehe, you are bating me. I am so staying out of that discussion. Good choice. I'm feeling like Gatormom looked yesterday. |
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Post by sashimi on Apr 11, 2008 8:37:08 GMT -6
Also, very respectfully........getting crap done and quick is not necessarily what we should be looking forward in the leader of a SCHOOL district. Getting things done expiditiously and correctly would be a much better goal!
Perhaps there was an opportunity to build better concensus but clearly the Administration decided this would be a hinderance to "progress". In fact, at anytime during the last few weeks, true leaders would have reached out to those who were in disagreement or felt wronged and tried to build bridges (instead of attacking these residents with insults and promoting anger and hate to the areas it felt stood in their way).
In hindsight, if there was an attempt to build concensus, I would imagine the force behind NSFOC would have really only been 7-8 people (and Midwest Gen would have never come to a realization that there was such disent among the district).
Regardless, looking in the rear view mirror will get us nowhere and if we continue to do things the same way, we will only get the same results.
I look forward to seeing if we take advantage of this new fork in the road.
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Post by WeBe204 on Apr 11, 2008 8:37:34 GMT -6
hehe, you are bating me. I am so staying out of that discussion. Good choice. I'm feeling like Gatormom looked yesterday. Yeah, her makeup artist was working over time. |
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Post by JB on Apr 11, 2008 8:39:31 GMT -6
Some people may not like his methods, but the man can get crap done and quick. History is full of people who got things done quick, while ignoring the concerns of the people. |
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Post by JB on Apr 11, 2008 8:40:35 GMT -6
WeBe204 High School? You could be the PTA President....  I'm not advocating anything. If we cannot build on the entire remediated MWGEN/AME parcel, it ain't gonna happen. It won't happen at BB because we can't afford it. So that leaves us with Hamman (the enviro there is just as bad if not worse than AME) or Macom. So perhaps, Ashwood may have the shortest commute after all. ETA: Of course there's also the cram 'em in approach. hehe, you are bating me. I am so staying out of that discussion. |
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Post by sashimi on Apr 11, 2008 8:41:23 GMT -6
Yes rural, I am in fact a supporter of NSFOC...(feel no need to hide this). I am also a supporter of our school district, our teachers and our children (just not necessarily of all of the current leaders or the direction that has been followed up until now).
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Post by rural on Apr 11, 2008 8:43:48 GMT -6
Same goal different language. I'm so sorry if you didn't feel like the Administration was listening to you. Perhaps they were and just didn't agree. Just a possibility. That was sort of my take on things. Somehow a small, selfish group of people decided to but up roadblocks along the way. They've made their bed and now we all have to sleep in it.
I would suggest that you give the rest of us a few days to simmer down before you start your Kumbaihs by the campfire.
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Post by rural on Apr 11, 2008 8:46:51 GMT -6
Some people may not like his methods, but the man can get crap done and quick. History is full of people who got things done quick, while ignoring the concerns of the people. It's also filled with people who would bite off their nose to spite their face. |
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Post by WeBe204 on Apr 11, 2008 8:47:29 GMT -6
I would suggest that you give the rest of us a few days to simmer down before you start your Kumbaihs by the campfire. Now this I completely agree with. I have needed that before as well. I am totally fine with people needing place to bang their head. In fact, I am sure I can find that song on my iPod if needed. (Yeah, I am 80s metal fan) |
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Post by JB on Apr 11, 2008 8:47:54 GMT -6
Great words of wisdom, thanks Sashimi. True leaders are leaders because they've attracted followers, people who believe in them. What we have now are people who manage by virtue of their position and power. Big differerence. Want to see a change in the community? Find a leader. Here are some words of wisdom for our Board and Administration. As we move forward, hopefully the focus will be on how to move forward building a concensus of the community (as opposed to continuing to pit neighbor against neighbor in an attempt to force the Administration's will on the district): Good leaders make people feel that they're at the very heart of things, not at the periphery. "Unknown" Leadership rests not only upon ability, not only upon capacity; having the capacity to lead is not enough. The leader must be willing to use it. His leadership is then based on truth and character. There must be truth in the purpose and will power in the character." --Vince Lombardi You do not lead by hitting people over the head - that's assault, not leadership." --Dwight D. Eisenhower "The quality of leadership, more than any other single factor, determines the success or failure of an organization." --Fred Fiedler and Martin Chemers in Improving Leadership Effectiveness And finally in light of the fact that the purpose of the District is to guide the future of our children: Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around. Leo Buscaglia: I am hopeful that starting today, we can go back to the ear that existed prior to Dr. Daeschner's arrival. Our community is blessed with caring and active parents. Please...let's treat this as a resource as opposed to a hinderance! |
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Post by sashimi on Apr 11, 2008 8:48:50 GMT -6
Fair enough....Kumbaihs by the fire rescheduled until Tuesday evening...  Rural, appreciate your feedback and the passion you have behind your position. |
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Post by macy on Apr 11, 2008 8:50:47 GMT -6
Sashimi
Great quotes. I'm in agreement as well.
I place the MOST blame for this debacle on the current leadership of 204- Dr. Daeschner and the school board.
Stop pitting people against each other and find a solution.
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