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Post by entitled on Apr 13, 2008 20:14:49 GMT -6
Well, the emails landing in my box today indicate that the small group is growing. Not sure if that was what Ms. Streder intended, but she can thank her off-colored remarks for adding to the diversity of NSFOC donors.
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Post by snerdley on Apr 13, 2008 20:16:38 GMT -6
Well, the emails landing in my box today indicate that the small group is growing. Not sure if that was what Ms. Streder intended, but she can thank her off-colored remarks for adding to the diversity of NSFOC donors. God is pleased.  |
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Post by casey on Apr 13, 2008 20:21:34 GMT -6
Well, the emails landing in my box today indicate that the small group is growing. Not sure if that was what Ms. Streder intended, but she can thank her off-colored remarks for adding to the diversity of NSFOC donors. You're absolutely correct. It seems Jennifer's comments really riled up the troops. There's a LOT more people involved and interested in hearing about the the SB's antics after this article was posted and they're coming out in numbers. The talk around the neighborhood has been lively and I'm thinking there will be a big turn-out at tomorrow's meeting. I would think that NSFOC has benefited from the Sun's article. Somehow words like entitled, racist, and elitist don't go over so big.  |
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Post by snerdley on Apr 13, 2008 20:28:15 GMT -6
Well, the emails landing in my box today indicate that the small group is growing. Not sure if that was what Ms. Streder intended, but she can thank her off-colored remarks for adding to the diversity of NSFOC donors. You're absolutely correct. It seems Jennifer's comments really riled up the troops. There's a LOT more people involved and interested in hearing about the the SB's antics after this article was posted and they're coming out in numbers. The talk around the neighborhood has been lively and I'm thinking there will be a big turn-out at tomorrow's meeting. I would think that NSFOC has benefited from the Sun's article. Somehow words like entitled, racist, and elitist don't go over so big. The thing is, even before this, I don't believe the opposition to the SB was really a minority. That many engaged unhappy people constitues something. It's just Play #2 in the playbook to call the opposition a "minority". That makes it more acceptable to ignore them and discourages others from joining them. Truth be known, I bet there are more people in opposition to the Eola site than there are supporters. They've just used people like Jennifer Streder IMO to do their bidding. Wonder it they'll back her up? |
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Post by Arch on Apr 13, 2008 20:33:40 GMT -6
This is why that site would never pass on a ballot and why they have to pull from so far away just to fill it.
The numbers just are not there.
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Post by fryfox on Apr 13, 2008 20:44:13 GMT -6
The odd thing is that, despite the nasty comments, I really do feel for the Brookdale people in that you would really get your hopes up for a brand new school to be so close to your home. I'm sure they even realize the negatives of this site, but it's hard to let go of that.
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Post by macy on Apr 13, 2008 20:47:15 GMT -6
The odd thing is that, despite the nasty comments, I really do feel for the Brookdale people in that you would really get your hopes up for a brand new school to be so close to your home. I'm sure they even realize the negatives of this site, but it's hard to let go of that. I agree with your post fryfox. I have some very good friends that live in Brookdale. I felt very badly for them during the 2006 boundary decision. At the time, I felt they got "owned". Brookdale is loaded with great people that have contributed great things to our district. |
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 13, 2008 20:57:38 GMT -6
The odd thing is that, despite the nasty comments, I really do feel for the Brookdale people in that you would really get your hopes up for a brand new school to be so close to your home. I'm sure they even realize the negatives of this site, but it's hard to let go of that. I agree with your post fryfox. I have some very good friends that live in Brookdale. I felt very badly for them during the 2006 boundary decision. Brookdale is loaded with great people that have contributed great things to our district. our areas have gone to MS together for my 19 years here, so I was sincere when I said I hoped that people would work together to fix the split situation where they were by themselves at WVHS after the last boundaries. I don't know if that was shiftng who atteneded Hill, or a school moving from MV @ BB to WVHS with them or what - but felt something should be done. I still believed then as now- BB was far and away the best site for 204, and that that issue had 2 years at least to get corrected. which is why when Watts had an issue with the commute now - some of the sit down and shut up comments back to us from there kinda shocked me. AS did the total ignoring of the situation from our SB. I will chalk it up to a few boneheads. So yes there are good people everywhere.... |
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Post by hillmom on Apr 13, 2008 21:10:03 GMT -6
Doctorwho - you have my apology just also found your comment and removed your info from mine. I'm sorry for the error. One thing I must say is that there have been many ommissions from my comment to the press - like the fact that I thought there was a very small group that were elitists and racist and that this was their motivation. Also that I was upset that whole neighborhoods were getting labeled ie: WE & TG and that the labeling needed to stop. I never said ritzy homes. And for those that have posted that I can't afford a larger home - is it so unbelievable that maybe I like my neighborhood and don't need or want a bigger home or to move further south. Why did you immediately have to say I can't afford one. What I love is that you will let a cut and paste quote determine who I am and that for those that know me or know my face not a direct call or comment to even verify was that really what happened or was said. When did the Naperville Sun become the pillar of the community on truth - if we believed everything we read! Just curious if you were possibly misquoted twice - here is a quote from the Herald's article yesterday: Jennifer Streder, of Napervile's Brookdale neighborhood, said Friday she hopes the district finds a way to build along Eola. "People are appalled, shocked and hurt that elitism wins in this case," she said. "And that's what they are, a small group of parents who believe they got a deed to a seat in a school, sitting next to whoever they want, when they bought their ritzy homes. "Well they've woken and disgusted a silent majority here and we're tired of their unacceptance of certain aspects of our community and Waubonsie Valley High School." Unfortunately, they are not a small group of parents. There are many who are very upset. The herald didn't say racist - I did say there seems to be sense of elitism from a small group of people. Not the entire NSFOC. I never said all of TG or WE and was very specific to them about how I think the labeling of entire neighborhoods is not acceptable. I am sorry if people are upset - I never labeled a whole neighborhood. I am entitled to support a 3rd school and be okay with a location just as you are entitled to not like a location. I am also entitled to believe that not everyones motivations for fighting this locaton is really about the environment. I simply believe this because many of these people fought against quick take for the macom site. The Macom site mirrors many of the same issues as Eola - we just swap underground gas lines for a plant right next door that houses explosive gases above ground. For the new people to the movement - are they all about environmental I believe so and that is their right and even though I may not totally agree with the argument and certainly not with suing ourselves - It is their right. This is the problem when you have people fighting that have different reasons they are fighting like Doctor Who mentioned. People in the district are lumping all the different motives into one group because they have joined their issues together by default to fight this other fight on environment. I know many don't like it but that one little ugly part is getting grouped in with the rest of the issues and for many is still very fresh in our minds from 2006. Remember Macoms big bash on Waubonsie - there were people who then supported his site after what he said - that was a slap in many WVHS peoples faces. NSFOC enlisted Linda Holmes help and she was the one fighting to move Ashwood out of Waubonsie or she wouldn't support quick take. One of her campaign sponsors is Macom. This association they have made with her has opened an old wound very wide and unfortunately attached itself to NSFOC. |
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Post by rural on Apr 13, 2008 21:14:17 GMT -6
Get out? We don't want out - we believe in a 3rd high school and think this is the way to get it. BB didn't pan out. We are sorry, but lets move on. I firmly believe that many of the Eola site supporters want OUT of WVHS. Those of us who attended SB meetings for the last several years have seen it and heard it with our own eyes. It's THE motivating factor in their "war" and they are counting on the SB (most of whom live in the north) to deliver it to them. These people are dragging this district down in the gutter. How they sleep at night I don't know. Snerdley, do you actually know anyone north of 75th Street? That you can actually say that anyone currently going to WVHS wants out is ridiculous. It's an awesome school. For a couple of days after the announcement my daughter was excited because she would be able to attend WV with ALL of the MS friends. I'll make a deal with you. You don't generalize about the Majority of my area and I'll do you the same favor.  ETA: Directionally challenged.  |
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Post by WeBe204 on Apr 13, 2008 21:15:36 GMT -6
Remember Macoms big bash on Waubonsie - there were people who then supported his site after what he said - that was a slap in many WVHS peoples faces. NSFOC enlisted Linda Holmes help and she was the one fighting to move Ashwood out of Waubonsie or she wouldn't support quick take. One of her campaign sponsors is Macom. This association they have made with her has opened an old wound very wide and unfortunately attached itself to NSFOC. Ah, now we move on to Ashwood. Thanks HillMom. Just for everyone watching Ashwood Park was at the boundary meeting recently as residents and we spoke proudly about our WVHS assignment. Back then Ashwood was a development without residents. Edit: Let see I think Tamarack is next on your geographic tour of the southwest side. |
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Post by Arch on Apr 13, 2008 21:20:11 GMT -6
Hillmon, I have heard this mentioned many times but have never heard it quantified.
"we just swap underground gas lines for a plant right next door that houses explosive gases above ground."
What plant/gases? Where is this located and what is in there in what quantities?
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Post by hillmom on Apr 13, 2008 21:35:13 GMT -6
Hillmon, I have heard this mentioned many times but have never heard it quantified. "we just swap underground gas lines for a plant right next door that houses explosive gases above ground." What plant/gases? Where is this located and what is in there in what quantities? Enbridge is the name of the company. Houses Hydrogen Sulfide Gases and Explosives according to their sign. I think it might be Clow Creek Drive - .2 miles from the Macom site |
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Post by hillmom on Apr 13, 2008 21:40:02 GMT -6
Remember Macoms big bash on Waubonsie - there were people who then supported his site after what he said - that was a slap in many WVHS peoples faces. NSFOC enlisted Linda Holmes help and she was the one fighting to move Ashwood out of Waubonsie or she wouldn't support quick take. One of her campaign sponsors is Macom. This association they have made with her has opened an old wound very wide and unfortunately attached itself to NSFOC. Ah, now we move on to Ashwood. Thanks HillMom. Just for everyone watching Ashwood Park was at the boundary meeting recently as residents and we spoke proudly about our WVHS assignment. Back then Ashwood was a development without residents. Edit: Let see I think Tamarack is next on your geographic tour of the southwest side. Never said Ashwood residents agreed just stating what Paul Leman (SP?) from Macom said and what Linda Holmes stated as her reason to the SB when she backed out of sponsoring quick take 15 minutes before she was supposed to but it up. This is what people are associating NSFOC with because they enlisted her help! Just letting you know - and trying to explain where this is all coming from. |
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Post by JB on Apr 13, 2008 21:42:27 GMT -6
NSFOC and Macom? How is this possible? NSFOC is only a few months old? Remember Macoms big bash on Waubonsie - there were people who then supported his site after what he said - that was a slap in many WVHS peoples faces. NSFOC enlisted Linda Holmes help and she was the one fighting to move Ashwood out of Waubonsie or she wouldn't support quick take. One of her campaign sponsors is Macom. This association they have made with her has opened an old wound very wide and unfortunately attached itself to NSFOC. Ah, now we move on to Ashwood. Thanks HillMom. Just for everyone watching Ashwood Park was at the boundary meeting recently as residents and we spoke proudly about our WVHS assignment. Back then Ashwood was a development without residents. Edit: Let see I think Tamarack is next on your geographic tour of the southwest side. |
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