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Post by Arch on Apr 13, 2008 22:28:14 GMT -6
I'd like to know that too. Many of us spoke to board members about how unfair that situation was, and if there was a way to remedy it. The fight to get the 3rd high school. There was a little unrest when Hill had to turn in an stance yes or no to IPPC. Watts and Brookdale divided a bit briefly because many Brookdale people then opposed and Watts was still for it - rightfully so. They ended up turning in an obstain vote so there was not a division in the community of Hill. Many of the no votes were just because they felt they could not vote yes and have their students go alone. We only have about 68 students per grade. Small group to go alone. I never understood the 'alone' part. I'm sure that reasoning is because my Junior @ WV currently only has associated with 2 middle school friends on a regular basis since middle school. They all 3 lived within a 3 street radius and 1 moved away last summer. Even in the 'split middle school' scenerio, his friends would have been with him and not 'gone alone'. I can understand meeting new friends in MS from different ES, and becoming close friends, but that same miraculous phenomenon can repeat itself at the 9th grade level again just like it did in prior years of meeting people one did not go to ES with and becoming friends. Virtually every single other friend my son has is from Gombert and Georgetown area, whom he met while in HS and never knew prior.
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 13, 2008 22:28:33 GMT -6
I'd like to know that too. Many of us spoke to board members about how unfair that situation was, and if there was a way to remedy it. The fight to get the 3rd high school. There was a little unrest when Hill had to turn in an stance yes or no to IPPC. Watts and Brookdale divided a bit briefly because many Brookdale people then opposed and Watts was still for it - rightfully so. They ended up turning in an obstain vote so there was not a division in the community of Hill. Many of the no votes were just because they felt they could not vote yes and have their students go alone. We only have about 68 students per grade. Small group to go alone. Well you've now heard from two of the more vocal people in Watts and I make 3- and we were all heavily involved in many many activities at the time, 204tk not being the least of them. Yes we fought to make sure we wouldn't lose the 3rd HS...we were not going to vote no regardless.. but we were very vocal about fixing the BD situation. We went to most of the PTA meetings from all the feeders, and 2 of us were even at the BD meeting the night before the day of the orange shirts. Like Arch has said, they would have been little to no uproar here if we were assigned to WVHS as I believe there was an option at one point ( of the 15 or so we had) that sent us to WVHS along with Owen, but I'd have to go back and look at the exact split. It's been a long time since I went thru them--I believe there was even one where we were at NV. Most people here are on record that with BB as the site- any of the 3 HS's are just fine....there was no burning desire to go through a new school openng here, we accepted the appointment there because quite frankly - for the first time this area was actaully going to go to school after ES that was the closest one to us. The commute from 6th grade thru 12th grade is long.
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Post by d204mom on Apr 13, 2008 22:35:25 GMT -6
You do have a few in the south who are openly racist and make comments - that in no way is everyone or even a majority. But they have put themselves out there that they don't want to go to THAT school. We all have to agree to that, right? You aren't one of them obviously - so why are you taking offense? Sorry, but I have idiots in my neighborhood - I have families who ask our Indian residents why they don't go back to their own country. Lovely. I don't take offense at anyone calling them racist and know it aint me. The bottom line is that the elected officials of this district should be acting in the best interests of the entire district and all of the kids. Having an "agenda" meant to "settle a score" is highly inappropriate. And it's becoming clearer and clearer to me, that is what motivates them. That's why there are currently 3 lawsuits filed against them. I need some clarification. My understanding is that there are currently 3 unresolved lawsuits pending against the district and this DOES NOT include any fees or damages from Brach, correct. So we should a$$ume at the very least there will be 4 and possibly 5 (if Brach also sues for damages due to the loss of the PREIT deal).
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Post by WeBe204 on Apr 13, 2008 22:38:28 GMT -6
The bottom line is that the elected officials of this district should be acting in the best interests of the entire district and all of the kids. Having an "agenda" meant to "settle a score" is highly inappropriate. And it's becoming clearer and clearer to me, that is what motivates them. That's why there are currently 3 lawsuits filed against them. I need some clarification. My understanding is that there are currently 3 unresolved lawsuits pending against the district and this DOES NOT include any fees or damages from Brach, correct. So we should a$$ume at the very least there will be 4 and possibly 5 (if Brach also sues for damages due to the loss of the PREIT deal). I actually think this is part of their strategy. To continue to pepper the district with new complaints. This drags the process out and continues to run up the districts legal expenses. Well and the PR nightmare...
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Post by hillmom on Apr 13, 2008 22:39:31 GMT -6
Many of the no votes were just because they felt they could not vote yes and have their students go alone. We only have about 68 students per grade. Small group to go alone. Do not even get me started on this. Talk about being 1/10th of an ES being split and then split again in MS. And we did not get to vote. But if we had asked for a real solution to the problem like NVHS would would have been called elitist, racist snobs. So, we asked for WVHS and stood proud. I don't think anyone agrees with being split and split again. Again just explaining why the big No vote - I was a yes and stood very proud and have no issue with WVHS. No matter what happens I will stand by my yes vote for a 3rd school.
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Post by d204mom on Apr 13, 2008 22:40:10 GMT -6
Well, the emails landing in my box today indicate that the small group is growing. Not sure if that was what Ms. Streder intended, but she can thank her off-colored remarks for adding to the diversity of NSFOC donors. You're absolutely correct. It seems Jennifer's comments really riled up the troops. There's a LOT more people involved and interested in hearing about the the SB's antics after this article was posted and they're coming out in numbers. The talk around the neighborhood has been lively and I'm thinking there will be a big turn-out at tomorrow's meeting. I would think that NSFOC has benefited from the Sun's article. Somehow words like entitled, racist, and elitist don't go over so big. I received 3 phone calls this morning from neighbors asking if I'd read the paper and "how dare those people" say those awful things about others in the district. I calmly explained how Bruce Glawe got the ball rolling and Metzger and Daeschner "gleefully" jumped on the bandwagon.
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Post by concerned2 on Apr 13, 2008 22:57:18 GMT -6
I have already emailed the SB, and told them this name calling needs to stop. Todays Sun article was over the top. To blanket an area as racists and elitists, is so hurtful. It was good to go to church after reading that. My blood was boiling. The remarks made by some have been very painful.
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 13, 2008 23:05:07 GMT -6
I need some clarification. My understanding is that there are currently 3 unresolved lawsuits pending against the district and this DOES NOT include any fees or damages from Brach, correct. So we should a$$ume at the very least there will be 4 and possibly 5 (if Brach also sues for damages due to the loss of the PREIT deal). I actually think this is part of their strategy. To continue to pepper the district with new complaints. This drags the process out and continues to run up the districts legal expenses. Well and the PR nightmare... they have more big money supporting them to carry this out for ever....they can outlast us for sure. It's also what happens when you negotiate by condemning someones land.
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 13, 2008 23:06:20 GMT -6
The bottom line is that the elected officials of this district should be acting in the best interests of the entire district and all of the kids. Having an "agenda" meant to "settle a score" is highly inappropriate. And it's becoming clearer and clearer to me, that is what motivates them. That's why there are currently 3 lawsuits filed against them. I need some clarification. My understanding is that there are currently 3 unresolved lawsuits pending against the district and this DOES NOT include any fees or damages from Brach, correct. So we should a$$ume at the very least there will be 4 and possibly 5 (if Brach also sues for damages due to the loss of the PREIT deal). there's a way to make all but the lawyers fees go away --
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Post by d204mom on Apr 13, 2008 23:06:43 GMT -6
I need some clarification. My understanding is that there are currently 3 unresolved lawsuits pending against the district and this DOES NOT include any fees or damages from Brach, correct. So we should a$$ume at the very least there will be 4 and possibly 5 (if Brach also sues for damages due to the loss of the PREIT deal). I actually think this is part of their strategy. To continue to pepper the district with new complaints. This drags the process out and continues to run up the districts legal expenses. Well and the PR nightmare... And it continues to tie up the 25 acres indefinately. You know, those pesky 25 acres we have to sell or we can't finish the school?
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 13, 2008 23:08:32 GMT -6
I actually think this is part of their strategy. To continue to pepper the district with new complaints. This drags the process out and continues to run up the districts legal expenses. Well and the PR nightmare... And it continues to tie up the 25 acres indefinately. You know, those pesky 25 acres we have to sell or we can't finish the school? I think those 25 acres are the least of our problems...
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Post by Arch on Apr 13, 2008 23:12:36 GMT -6
they have more big money supporting them to carry this out for ever....they can outlast us for sure. It's also what happens when you negotiate by condemning someones land. Every other issue aside, people need to understand THIS simple fact. There is only 1 out for this situation. We need to take it or come to a screeching halt as a district for an indefinite amount of time. People have absolutely no idea the heft behind their side. They will mop the floor with us and keep dunking us back into the bucket and wringing us out over and over.
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Post by rural on Apr 13, 2008 23:21:20 GMT -6
ARCH! Oh no you didn't! Where did you find that Avatar?!! ;D
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Post by Arch on Apr 13, 2008 23:23:33 GMT -6
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Post by rural on Apr 13, 2008 23:25:10 GMT -6
The other one was a better graphic. I think you need to change back.
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