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Post by jenrik2714 on Jan 28, 2009 13:03:59 GMT -6
Glad I am leaving the district...
Don't need my kids exposed to this evil attitude displayed by certain people.
I took CTA buses *GASP*, lived farther than a mile from my high school *GASP*, didn't go to the same HS as the people from my elementary *GASP* and still managed to do fine. For all I know, my high school could of been buried under an ancient indian burial ground toxic waster dump still managed to get my degree. Do you people not know that you are creating little monsters....
there are things that I don't like, but I have to accept them.
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Post by casey on Jan 28, 2009 13:05:39 GMT -6
OK I know that we've delved somewhat into the issues surrounding the Class of 2012 and the unfortunate, avoidable and inexcusable plan to move some of them from their existing high schools. From most everyone that I talk with they recognize the wrongness of such a plan. These kids should be allowed to stay at their existing high school and MV should start with freshman only. I talked with my freshman last night and what was shared was quite interesting. One of the deans came into the TG/WE advisory classes (remember they were isolated at the start of the year and put into their own "special" classes for the transitional kids) and talked to them about course selection. Let's suffice it to say it didn't go too well. From what my child said many of the kids were VERY upset about moving schools and they let the dean hear it. The whole presentation was being spun around you know the whole equal school experience, opportunity to start over, new opportunities ya da, ya da... Bottom line is most of the kids were MAD, ANGRY, UPSET, and FEELING CHEATED. No way were you going to convince this group that what is scheduled to take place with switching schools is right! They're upset and they don't want to hear about it. I know the dean walked out of the advisory class with quite an earful. That's the thing that I want is for the SB/Admin to recognize that these are kids with feelings. I wish that they would sit down with a focus group of these kids and hear what they have to say. They don't want to move, start over, lose friends, try to fit in, etc. This class of 2012 is being completely screwed out of their HS opportunity. It is simply not right. Please SB members I know some of you read or at least hear about the postings on this pro-board, do something to rectify this situation. Let the Class of 2012 finish out their high school experience at the school they are at. It can be done and there's a way you can make it right. Start MV with freshman only. so the kids have learned a lot from their parents eh? You know what, Steckdad? That's a bunch of BS. These kids have learned a lot from their parents but not what I believe you are implying  and please don't act as if you aren't implying anything by your so-called innocuous comment). Stirring the pot, hmmmm? Your snide comments are unneeded. I have taught my child to stand up for what is right and I can assure you that NONE of my children will ever just sit back and blindly allow all decisions to be made without sharing their opinions. I'm not talking parenting decisions in my household (my husband and I control all of that!) but I am talking about sharing their thoughts, feelings and opinions. My kids will never be ones to just sit and "take it!". My kids do stand up for doing what is right. My children are respectful but they have definitely learned to speak out. |
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Post by casey on Jan 28, 2009 13:07:43 GMT -6
Glad I am leaving the district... Well good riddance to you then. Let's hope you'll be happier somewhere else. |
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Post by Arch on Jan 28, 2009 13:17:30 GMT -6
Glad I am leaving the district... Don't need my kids exposed to this evil attitude displayed by certain people. I took CTA buses *GASP*, lived farther than a mile from my high school *GASP*, didn't go to the same HS as the people from my elementary *GASP* and still managed to do fine. For all I know, my high school could of been buried under an ancient indian burial ground toxic waster dump still managed to get my degree. Do you people not know that you are creating little monsters.... there are things that I don't like, but I have to accept them. I believe there is a system to change things that are not liked, if enough voters also feel the same way. If they don't, fine... but if they do... things can and will change. I wonder if I can take the above logic though and add to it... I know many people without retirement plans, and they seem to be 'fine'. So, anyone who's complaining about theirs performing poorly should just accept it... and if they complain about it or try to do anything they are legally entitled to do abut it, then they are just creating little monsters... Sorry, I don't even buy that either. |
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Post by casey on Jan 28, 2009 13:25:28 GMT -6
Do you people not know that you are creating little monsters.... Oh and no I'm not creating a little monster. I am creating an independent thinker who will stand up for what is right. For the record these "little monsters" down this way tend to do quite well in school and have pretty high test scores - imagine that. |
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Post by 204parent on Jan 28, 2009 13:45:30 GMT -6
Convincing the SB to start MV with Freshmen only is going to be a tough battle.
It may be easier to convince them to create a policy to keep siblings together at the same school.
I understand it would be nice to do both, but concentrating resources on the first battle may overshadow the sibling policy, and we will end up with neither.
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Post by Arch on Jan 28, 2009 13:48:27 GMT -6
Convincing the SB to start MV with Freshmen only is going to be a tough battle. It may be easier to convince them to create a policy to keep siblings together at the same school. I understand it would be nice to do both, but concentrating resources on the first battle may overshadow the sibling policy, and we will end up with neither. I fully understand your logic, and would agree with it, but I believe it will also require new blood to be on the board in order for either to have any consideration. Right now, only one on there speaks out and votes against the grain to offer a different perspective or point of view. A true 'majority' of the seats are up for grabs in April. |
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Post by researching on Jan 28, 2009 13:53:54 GMT -6
Glad I am leaving the district... Don't need my kids exposed to this evil attitude displayed by certain people. I took CTA buses *GASP*, lived farther than a mile from my high school *GASP*, didn't go to the same HS as the people from my elementary *GASP* and still managed to do fine. For all I know, my high school could of been buried under an ancient indian burial ground toxic waster dump still managed to get my degree. Do you people not know that you are creating little monsters.... there are things that I don't like, but I have to accept them. I agree completely. However, I would disagree on who you are calling evil when it is YOU who is name calling children. Classy.  |
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Post by researching on Jan 28, 2009 13:58:02 GMT -6
One has to wonder why some who have had no play in this game decide to jump in late and call children names? Sad sad sad.
FWIW - I have answered my "little monster's" questions honestly about the switch. However, I have also told my "little monster" that sometimes the best thing to happen is not always what we want but my faith in God has taught me that it usually ends up being what we need.
ETA - My faith does not however, give the SB / Admin. a free pass. If something is wrong, it's wrong.
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Post by doctorwho on Jan 28, 2009 15:28:05 GMT -6
Glad I am leaving the district... Don't need my kids exposed to this evil attitude displayed by certain people. I took CTA buses *GASP*, lived farther than a mile from my high school *GASP*, didn't go to the same HS as the people from my elementary *GASP* and still managed to do fine. For all I know, my high school could of been buried under an ancient indian burial ground toxic waster dump still managed to get my degree. Do you people not know that you are creating little monsters.... there are things that I don't like, but I have to accept them. just accepting what one is dealt hardly seems like a path that leads to anything positive. I grew up by you also- -- you say your HS was more than a mile away - I can almost guarantee you with the way the city was set up it wasn't 7 or 8 miles away either. I grew up near the stock yards- doesn't mean I would want to do it again, nor have my kids do it. Your parents also didn't allocate the kind of funds to the school system people do here for the privilege of being screwed over for questionable reasons. The health issues are real- just accepting them hardly seems responsible as a parent. To trivialize it and make it seems people are concerned over the color of a book cover isn't accurate. I understand the overall message of not responding to every irritant item in this world- but some are more important than others. What is important to one person may not be to another - hardly makes one absolutely right and one absolutely wrong. Not sure there are little monsters being made in any one area /group over another- but I will teach my child that we stand up for what we believe in and no one gets to tell you 'shut and and sit down' - it's your turn, or take one for the team " just because. There are many places in the world where people do not get that choice- last I looked this was not one of them. |
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Post by doctorwho on Jan 28, 2009 15:46:13 GMT -6
Steckdad, I see someone has arrived to stir the pot! the pot is already in a vortex.... because of comments and attitude we get like that. Will the 'sit down and shut up' never end ? Sorry, you're going to have to realize this isn't going away -- and the SB / admin portrait of students being some blank faced - uber resistant robots is not true either. That's a load of crapola about how they will adjust just fine... I can tell you they are very upset. Hell, mine is out of the system for half a year now and still ticked off how this all went down. Yes they move on- but to think they have no feelings of their own is really just silly. Two weekends ago she sat down with a number of her Hill friends at a VB tournament - all I can tell you none of them are happy. The ones that have to move from WV to MV are very upset - in many cases when their parents are apathetic. So where did they learn it from ? Not at home. It's THEIR opinion- imagine that. And yeah, if the SB turns over to reveal people who actually will reveal : 1/ how much have we spent and continue to spend on expedited a non finished - non equal experience day 1 school , 2/ why are we the only SD in the area who does not follow a family friendly policy on sibling grandfathering 3/ exactly how did we end up with the property we have-- 4/ what are the true transportation costs/ mileage increases and is there a better plan and may not be afraid to ask voters/parents opinions on things because they might get their feelings hurt... Also don't be surprised to see someone challenge the district on residency rules for a HS within district that doesn't offer varsity sports when another does - it appears that may be a SD/SB call, not the IHSA ..as we have been told. The candidates will not all be silent like hand picked replacements really kinda surprised by the snarky comment.. you're a better person than that. |
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Post by doctorwho on Jan 28, 2009 15:49:06 GMT -6
Vortex From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia A vortex (pl. vortices) is a spinning, often turbulent, flow of fluid. Any spiral motion with closed streamlines is vortex flow. The motion of the fluid swirling rapidly around a center is called a vortex. The speed and rate of rotation of the fluid are greatest at the center, and decrease progressively with distance from the center. * The fluid pressure in a vortex is lowest in the center where the speed is greatest, and rises progressively with distance from the center.This is in accordance with Bernoulli's Principle. The core of a vortex in air is sometimes visible because of a plume of water vapor caused by condensation in the low pressure of the core. The spout of a tornado is a classic and frightening example of the visible core of a vortex. A dust devil is also the core of a vortex, made visible by the dust drawn upwards by the turbulent flow of air from ground level into the low pressure core. * The core of every vortex can be considered to contain a vortex line, and every particle in the vortex can be considered to be circulating around the vortex line. Vortex lines can start and end at the boundary of the fluid or form closed loops. They cannot start or end in the fluid. (See Helmholtz's theorems.) Vortices readily deflect and attach themselves to a solid surface. For example, a vortex usually forms ahead of the propeller disk or jet engine of a slow-moving airplane. One end of the vortex line is attached to the propeller disk or jet engine, but when the airplane is taxiing the other end of the vortex line readily attaches itself to the ground rather than end in midair. The vortex can suck water and small stones into the core and then into the propeller disk or jet engine. * Two or more vortices that are approximately parallel and circulating in the same direction will quickly merge to form a single vortex. The circulation of the merged vortex will equal the sum of the circulations of the constituent vortices. For example, a sheet of small vortices flows from the trailing edge of the wing or propeller of an airplane when the wing is developing lift or the propeller is developing thrust. In less than one wing chord downstream of the trailing edge of the wing these small vortices merge to form a single vortex. If viewed from the tail of the airplane, looking forward in the direction of flight, there is one wingtip vortex trailing from the left-hand wing and circulating clockwise, and another wingtip vortex trailing from the right-hand wing and circulating anti-clockwise. The result is a region of downwash behind the wing, between the pair of wingtip vortices. These two wingtip vortices do not merge because they are circulating in opposite directions. * Vortices contain a lot of energy in the circular motion of the fluid. In an ideal fluid this energy can never be dissipated and the vortex would persist forever. However, real fluids exhibit viscosity and this dissipates energy very slowly from the core of the vortex. (See Rankine vortex). It is only through dissipation of a vortex due to viscosity that a vortex line can end in the fluid, rather than at the boundary of the fluid. For example, the wingtip vortices from an airplane dissipate slowly and linger in the atmosphere long after the airplane has passed. This is a hazard to other aircraft and is known as wake turbulence. ***************************************************************************** Steckdad, why not be a liquid with high viscosity, aka an agent of change, a calming quality. I would ask the same question SSDM - what possible good can come from a comment of that nature ? |
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Post by macy on Jan 28, 2009 17:57:10 GMT -6
Glad I am leaving the district... Don't need my kids exposed to this evil attitude displayed by certain people. I took CTA buses *GASP*, lived farther than a mile from my high school *GASP*, didn't go to the same HS as the people from my elementary *GASP* and still managed to do fine. For all I know, my high school could of been buried under an ancient indian burial ground toxic waster dump still managed to get my degree. Do you people not know that you are creating little monsters.... there are things that I don't like, but I have to accept them. Jenrik, I also had a tough time growing up. Many of us did. I don't find any merit in debating how bad it was for any of us. At this point, it is not about what we went through, it is what our kids will go through. Your "evil little monsters" comment was ridiculous and insulting to the children in 204. You may have a beef with some of the parents, but to call the kids "evil little monsters" is not acceptable to me. |
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Post by casey on Jan 28, 2009 18:25:52 GMT -6
Macy returns ;D! I agree with your comments to Jenrik. Now that I've had a little more time to digest what what was said, I'm even more mad - it was ridiculous and insulting to all. That comment was completely out of line. Say whatever you want about me but don't insult my kids. I guess I'll keep waiting for an apology  . |
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Post by macy on Jan 28, 2009 19:48:12 GMT -6
OK I know that we've delved somewhat into the issues surrounding the Class of 2012 and the unfortunate, avoidable and inexcusable plan to move some of them from their existing high schools. From most everyone that I talk with they recognize the wrongness of such a plan. These kids should be allowed to stay at their existing high school and MV should start with freshman only. I talked with my freshman last night and what was shared was quite interesting. One of the deans came into the TG/WE advisory classes (remember they were isolated at the start of the year and put into their own "special" classes for the transitional kids) and talked to them about course selection. Let's suffice it to say it didn't go too well. From what my child said many of the kids were VERY upset about moving schools and they let the dean hear it. The whole presentation was being spun around you know the whole equal school experience, opportunity to start over, new opportunities ya da, ya da... Bottom line is most of the kids were MAD, ANGRY, UPSET, and FEELING CHEATED. No way were you going to convince this group that what is scheduled to take place with switching schools is right! They're upset and they don't want to hear about it. I know the dean walked out of the advisory class with quite an earful. That's the thing that I want is for the SB/Admin to recognize that these are kids with feelings. I wish that they would sit down with a focus group of these kids and hear what they have to say. They don't want to move, start over, lose friends, try to fit in, etc. This class of 2012 is being completely screwed out of their HS opportunity. It is simply not right. Please SB members I know some of you read or at least hear about the postings on this pro-board, do something to rectify this situation. Let the Class of 2012 finish out their high school experience at the school they are at. It can be done and there's a way you can make it right. Start MV with freshman only. so the kids have learned a lot from their parents eh? your point is? Are you directing your negative comments at the parents, the kids or both? From reading your comment, I think you are slinging some mud at both the kids AND the parents. Why? Yes, my kids have learned alot from my husband and I as parents. What's your problem with that?, eh?, eh?ETA: maybe if you had a child that had to move to a different high school as a sophomore, you might have a different opinion. I don't have a child in that situation (thank goodness), yet I have some empathy towards those kids. Regardless of what school you are leaving, WV or NV, I don't blame the parents/kids for being upset. Maybe for some reason you don't, eh? |
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and please don't act as if you aren't implying anything by your so-called innocuous comment). Stirring the pot, hmmmm? Your snide comments are unneeded. 
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