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Post by casey on Feb 10, 2009 10:35:59 GMT -6
(and as an aside and on on the topic of irony, was he wearing his save the children tie?) I'm pretty sure that it was the save the children tie but it was covered with his nifty sweater vest and a suit - a true fashion fashion disaster . His appearance wasn't good - inward or outward. DD came across as pompous, arrogant and uncaring. The speakers that signed up did a fantastic job - they were calm yet forceful with their message. The crowd certainly aligned themselves with the parents and were ready to hang the SB. IMO, it gave a whole new group of parents (in this case Gregory) to hear the "sit down and shut up" mentality of the SB. Parents were pissed off and MM didn't do himself any favors in trying to shut some of them up. The majority of the crowd made it known that our SB/admin really dropped the ball on this one. It was quite interesting seeing CB stand up to MM. This time he refused to back down and I'm not sure who was more mad about the whole thing - MM or DD. Suffice it so say our whole SB walked out with egg on their collective faces. So sad that it took the media coverage to actually bring some attention to the policy matter at hand. The SB should have handled this differently from the start! By the way, who is the District's new attorney? I hadn't heard his name before.
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Post by sashimi on Feb 10, 2009 10:49:18 GMT -6
Not sure if these attorney is new or in addition to. Unfortunately, our District has demonstrated that it needs a stable of attorneys to help clean up its mess (certainly doing its part to help stimulate the legal economy in these tough times). It is like following an elephant in a parade.
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Post by researching on Feb 10, 2009 10:49:59 GMT -6
I am just really sad for the student and family that was first victimized by these fellow students and now is being treated like outcasts by OUR SB/Administration. There seems to be incidents of bullying at school as well as a horrible attack by classmates outside of school grounds. How can the Board/District justify (or even live with) ignoring this family's request to have a meeting. Their child was sexually assaulted by classmates that their child has to see every day, and the SB/Admin can not even grant the parents a fricking meeting? The preferred avenue is having the conversation taken to the media and a Board meeting? How about common sense and compassion? My opinion is MM prides himself on being a bully, so perhaps he truly is unable to sympathize with the situation. Ironic that MM's response to CB's proposal addressing the worst extreme of bullying possible is to tell CB to sit down and shut up. <My opinion is MM prides himself on being a bully, so perhaps he truly is unable to sympathize with the situation. Ironic that MM's response to CB's proposal addressing the worst extreme of bullying possible is to tell CB to sit down and shut up.> I was going to contact CB today and tell him he needs to move to TG or Watts if he's going to be treated like that at least he wasn't called a nincompoop - ;D
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Post by casey on Feb 10, 2009 10:52:02 GMT -6
Not sure if these attorney is new or in addition to. Unfortunately, our District has demonstrated that it needs a stable of attorneys to help clean up its mess Hey sashimi, you're an attorey, right? Maybe they have a job for you ;D.
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Post by d204mom on Feb 10, 2009 11:05:01 GMT -6
Not sure if these attorney is new or in addition to. Unfortunately, our District has demonstrated that it needs a stable of attorneys to help clean up its mess Hey sashimi, you're an attorey, right? Maybe they have a job for you ;D. This is the same guy that lost the t-shirt debacle at NV.
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Post by sashimi on Feb 10, 2009 11:07:38 GMT -6
A long, long time ago (and something that contributed to a decision to go into corporate law about 12 years ago), I achieved a favorable result in the civil part of a case where the defendant that I represented was convicted of killing a man in a drunk driving accident that left the wife and small child without a father...
But to represent this school district and board...please, I have morals.
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Post by southsidemom on Feb 10, 2009 12:06:41 GMT -6
Is it true this Reed lady is an attorney for one of the accused? Not sure but I spoke with a parent last night that knows one of the perpetrators families. He comment to me is that the district is doing these boys and injustice because they need help that our district district simply is not equipped to provide. If they don't fix it now their crimes could easily escalate into even more vial acts. So are we helping them in the long run to allow them to remain in school focusing on math, english, etc. when they truly need psychological help....and fast. It can only get worse. I guess our SB did not read about the incident under investigation in Evanston. Bullying must be taken seriously. Some kids commit suicide from constant bullying! Oh but that could never happen in our precious district. After all we are D204. Thanks CB for taking a public position and moving forward with it.
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Post by warriordiva on Feb 10, 2009 15:29:17 GMT -6
I think the general consensus is that this unfortunate event may be the eye-opener for the residents of the district to stand up to the "bullying" that we have taken at the hands of our SB and Dr. D. We still have an excellent school district, but the continued bad decision making is putting our foots on a slippery slope. Get out and vote in April!
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Post by treehugger on Feb 10, 2009 18:35:59 GMT -6
I know this isn't the right thing to do, but if this were my child being a victim, I would ask for my child to be sent to another school in the district where they could make a fresh start. This doesn't solve the problem and address the fact that the students that committed this act get to stay where they are. That is not fair. But sometimes there are only just so many battles we as parents can fight. I hope these parents are successful in getting the justice they are seeking and also hope the SD amends their policy to address this issue.
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Post by friend on Feb 11, 2009 21:25:28 GMT -6
[quote author=sashimi board=sblegal thread=2222 post=55051 t
I think it is important to respect the rights of the accused students, but on the other hand, if there is sufficient evidence that they committed a felony against another student, these kids should be removed for the safety of all students. I know that it is different in that it occured on a school bus, but the District did not provide a trial for the child who was using a pocket knife to clean his nails before they expelled/suspended him from school. [/quote]
Whatever happened to that kid on the bus? Was he expelled? Last I read, months ago, he was suspended.
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Post by steckdad on Feb 11, 2009 21:46:50 GMT -6
[quote author=sashimi board=sblegal thread=2222 post=55051 t I think it is important to respect the rights of the accused students, but on the other hand, if there is sufficient evidence that they committed a felony against another student, these kids should be removed for the safety of all students. I know that it is different in that it occured on a school bus, but the District did not provide a trial for the child who was using a pocket knife to clean his nails before they expelled/suspended him from school. Whatever happened to that kid on the bus? Was he expelled? Last I read, months ago, he was suspended.[/quote] friend I think the difference with the pocket knife is that the SD can conduct their own investigation and act accordingly. secondly, sufficient evidence can not be determined by the SD in this case...
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Post by slp on Feb 11, 2009 22:05:24 GMT -6
[quote author=sashimi board=sblegal thread=2222 post=55051 t I think it is important to respect the rights of the accused students, but on the other hand, if there is sufficient evidence that they committed a felony against another student, these kids should be removed for the safety of all students. I know that it is different in that it occured on a school bus, but the District did not provide a trial for the child who was using a pocket knife to clean his nails before they expelled/suspended him from school. Whatever happened to that kid on the bus? Was he expelled? Last I read, months ago, he was suspended. friend I think the difference with the pocket knife is that the SD can conduct their own investigation and act accordingly. secondly, sufficient evidence can not be determined by the SD in this case...[/quote] yes, BUT sufficient evidence WAS collected by the police which resulted in serious charges being filed. That should be taken into account and result in removal of the accused pending the outcome of the trial. The seriousness of the charges warrant this; if it were theft or vandalism etc. that is a different story entirely. We are talking about our kids safety here and that needs to be first and foremost. eta: it appears that the quoting function on the board is malfunctioning. my comments begin at "yes, but sufficient..."
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Post by friend on Feb 11, 2009 22:10:24 GMT -6
Steckdad, I was not trying to compare the two incidents. I really am curious if the end result for the kid on the bus resulted in an expulsion. I had read a while back that the parents were concerned that their child would be expelled in the end. I am curious because I read in the newspaper that he had an IEP.
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Post by friend on Feb 11, 2009 22:16:19 GMT -6
Steckdad, I was not trying to compare the two incidents. I really am curious if the end result for the kid on the bus resulted in an expulsion. I had read a while back that the parents were concerned that their child would be expelled in the end. I am curious because I read in the newspaper that he had an IEP. SLP, I do agree with you about putting our kids safety first and foremost!
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Post by entitled on Feb 17, 2009 17:22:46 GMT -6
Boy accused in sex assault charged again
February 17, 2009
By BILL BIRD wbird@scn1.com One of two preteen Naperville boys accused of sexually assaulting a classmate last year is now charged with beating the victim the day after that alleged attack.
Charles Pelkie, spokesman for Will County State's Attorney James Glasgow, would only confirm Tuesday a misdemeanor battery complaint has been filed against the 11-year-old implicated in the sex crime.
Pelkie said the physical attack occurred Nov. 12, with the battery charge formally filed last week. He would not say where the alleged attack occurred or comment further on the matter.
The battery allegedly occurred the day after the 11-year-old and a 12-year-old friend were charged as juveniles with sexually assaulting an 11-year-old classmate. All three boys attend Gregory Middle School, 2621 Springdale Circle, although the alleged sex assault occurred in a home on Naperville's far south side.
Glasgow's office has filed felony charges of criminal sexual assault and criminal sexual abuse against both suspects, along with misdemeanor charges of battery. Those cases are pending in court.
Both suspects were moved out of the victim's classrooms and placed in other rooms.
The parents of the alleged victim and others attended last week's meeting of the Indian Prairie School District 204 Board of Education to demand the suspects' immediate suspensions or expulsions.
District 204 officials were not immediately available for comment on the most recent charge and arrest.
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Egg on the face of SB/SD now a fluffy omelet.
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