Owen

[proschool]

gman413 said:

friend said:

This question is for all the Owen "west" folks. With our area slated to go to the new HS, how do you feel about the environmental issues that are being discussed? Are you concerned?

I am concerned if the consultants for any of the 3 areas under study (soil, EMF, pipelines) tell us and the SB that there's a bona fide risk. I don't believe the experts would have an agenda for hiding risks from us. I understand and appreciate everyone's concerns and I certainly want the kids to have a safe school. However, let's sprinkle a dose of reality and practicality on our plates...there are hazards everywhere - driving, flying, eating, talking on your cell phone, sitting in front of a PC all day, the list can go on ad nauseum. I don't know if the SB would be able to get the district residents to pony up the req'd $$$ to actually get BB. Assuming not (since we haven't even secured $$$ to staff the new HS yet), the lousy commute to AME site notwithstanding, I'm OK with having the new school there. From what I have read so far, there are no deal-breakers for me

Gman 413:

I am just curious.

When you bought your house did you check with your Realtor to see if there were larger houses that backed to power lines and were available for less money? I sure their were. It looks like you may have overlooked some great deals.

[proschool]

jwh said:

gman413,

That post sums up my feelings entirely. You could use that for the response to many current threads.

Actually you said don't understand why anyone would want to prevent a health hazard at a school unless thier own children were at that school.

I just wanted to point that out to our readers.

[jwh]

proschool said:

jwh said:

gman413,

That post sums up my feelings entirely. You could use that for the response to many current threads.

Actually you said don't understand why anyone would want to prevent a health hazard at a school unless thier own children were at that school.

I just wanted to point that out to our readers.

Never said that. Just questioned the overboard posting of the issue by some.

[gman413]

proschool said:

gman413 said:

I am concerned if the consultants for any of the 3 areas under study (soil, EMF, pipelines) tell us and the SB that there's a bona fide risk. I don't believe the experts would have an agenda for hiding risks from us. I understand and appreciate everyone's concerns and I certainly want the kids to have a safe school. However, let's sprinkle a dose of reality and practicality on our plates...there are hazards everywhere - driving, flying, eating, talking on your cell phone, sitting in front of a PC all day, the list can go on ad nauseum. I don't know if the SB would be able to get the district residents to pony up the req'd $$$ to actually get BB. Assuming not (since we haven't even secured $$$ to staff the new HS yet), the lousy commute to AME site notwithstanding, I'm OK with having the new school there. From what I have read so far, there are no deal-breakers for me

Gman 413:

I am just curious.

When you bought your house did you check with your Realtor to see if there were larger houses that backed to power lines and were available for less money? I sure their were. It looks like you may have overlooked some great deals.

Perhaps...

[friend]

gman413 said:

friend said:

This question is for all the Owen "west" folks. With our area slated to go to the new HS, how do you feel about the environmental issues that are being discussed? Are you concerned?

I am concerned if the consultants for any of the 3 areas under study (soil, EMF, pipelines) tell us and the SB that there's a bona fide risk. I don't believe the experts would have an agenda for hiding risks from us. I understand and appreciate everyone's concerns and I certainly want the kids to have a safe school. However, let's sprinkle a dose of reality and practicality on our plates...there are hazards everywhere - driving, flying, eating, talking on your cell phone, sitting in front of a PC all day, the list can go on ad nauseum. I don't know if the SB would be able to get the district residents to pony up the req'd $$$ to actually get BB. Assuming not (since we haven't even secured $$$ to staff the new HS yet), the lousy commute to AME site notwithstanding, I'm OK with having the new school there. From what I have read so far, there are no deal-breakers for me

Gman- I am trying to understand this environmental issue better. My concern is that the SB stated that this site was a health hazard when they first looked at it. Now the SB is saying that the AME site is okay. What is your take on this statement by the SB? I am for the 3rd HS. Not thrilled with this commute Owen "west" will make to MVHS. But I am not questioning these concerns based on the commute. Really. My feeling is it doesn't matter where the HS was built, the SB would have sent us to it based on the location of our area. I am concerned because my kids will go there and everyone is talking about the environmental issue.

[gman413]

friend said:

gman413 said:

I am concerned if the consultants for any of the 3 areas under study (soil, EMF, pipelines) tell us and the SB that there's a bona fide risk. I don't believe the experts would have an agenda for hiding risks from us. I understand and appreciate everyone's concerns and I certainly want the kids to have a safe school. However, let's sprinkle a dose of reality and practicality on our plates...there are hazards everywhere - driving, flying, eating, talking on your cell phone, sitting in front of a PC all day, the list can go on ad nauseum. I don't know if the SB would be able to get the district residents to pony up the req'd $$$ to actually get BB. Assuming not (since we haven't even secured $$$ to staff the new HS yet), the lousy commute to AME site notwithstanding, I'm OK with having the new school there. From what I have read so far, there are no deal-breakers for me

Gman- I am trying to understand this environmental issue better. My concern is that the SB stated that this site was a health hazard when they first looked at it. Now the SB is saying that the AME site is okay. What is your take on this statement by the SB? I am for the 3rd HS. Not thrilled with this commute Owen "west" will make to MVHS. But I am not questioning these concerns based on the commute. Really. My feeling is it doesn't matter where the HS was built, the SB would have sent us to it based on the location of our area. I am concerned because my kids will go there and everyone is talking about the environmental issue.

Honestly, I don't know what the SB's wording was re: the AME site while we thought we could get BB. That said, I'm guessing their thinking was something like this: "AME might have environmental issues and this would take time and money to determine. BB is just farmland and has a higher likelihood of freedom from safety issues thus it's an easier 'sell' to the voters, plus it's a better location". Presently, I accept what I've read so far re: studies of the 3 areas of concern. If we could have additional analysis of EMF by someone who is more of an expert in this as well as pipeline safety analysis, (perhaps by someone from the gov't entity responsible for them rather than a KM employee) this would hopefully go a long way toward assuaging the fears of many. Specifically on EMF, I've read 6-8 reports from various studies in the US and abroad and they've all concluded the same way "no conclusive evidence, data doesn't support the theory, etc etc." So personally, even with an expert in EMF, I don't worry about this issue.

On the topic of commute, distance-wise, going from Owen "west" to MV is only about 0.6mi longer than Owen "west" to Owen.

[sleeplessinnpvl]

Friend. Just a warning when you try and interpret what the SB says. I'm sure you know by now that the SB loves to spin. We've seen it in action. So I don't understand why everyone today is taking the words of the SB as gospel when it commented on the safety of AME several years ago?

I really have no idea why they said what they did, but given the situation at the time, (remember they were pushing for BB and not everyone was on board), don't you think they just had to make BB look real good? Also, if I remember correctly, not a lot of northern folks were on board at first with BB. So they had to try and convince everyone that BB was the best. And no, they never did any due dilegence on AME--heck, it's just easier to write in a summary that it stinks. I'm sure their thinking was much like gman said above. I'm also sure MM never dreamed they would have to go back and visit this site and he'd have to eat his words. Kind of funny, huh? So why do you not believe MM on anything he says today but choose to believe his report from a few years ago? Selective hearing?

It's hard to believe anything anymore. That's the problem. Lack of trust in this SB.

[d204mom]

sleeplessinnpvl said:

So I don't understand why everyone today is taking the words of the SB as gospel when it commented on the safety of AME several years ago?

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So why do you not believe MM on anything he says today but choose to believe his report from a few years ago? Selective hearing?

Here's the thing. He called the site a threat to my children. Then never addressed nor retracted that statement. People kinda pay attention when you call something a threat to their children and then try to downplay it later to fit a different agenda.

Honestly, most people probably don't give a rat one way or another over $3,168,450 here or there - heck people aren't even b*tching that MWGEN is running us $16,751,400 over budget. So spending an extra $3 mil on BB would have ruffled a few feathers but not really caused a rukus at all.

You threaten my kids then pretend you never said it? That will cause a rukus.

Ask forthekids:

“I can tell you that if one of my kids was moved to that school, we would be looking at other options."

Now we are supposed to shut up already because people don't give a rip about my kids, they just want fewer kids at NV - who cares what happens to my kids?

I care. It's my job.

[sleeplessinnpvl]

You're right. This whole thing is about agendas. MM had an agenda back then and it seems he has an agenda today. Spin, spin, spin.

I really wish we would have the $$ numbers on BB without the spin so we call could really know what is going on.

[proschool]

I drove out to the site today.


I just turned right under the power lines and it took me right to the MISWESTGEN plant.

Let me tell you it was freaking scarey. I thought I was in Frankinstein's Laboritory. It looked worse than the pictures.

The deisel energy tank was huge I can't believe that a company would go through the trouble of building such a thing and then only run it once for a couple of hours.

The Comed station was horrific. The fence was all covered with barbed wire. Electrical towers were everwhere. I will never send my kids there.

[rural]

proschool said:

I drove out to the site today.


I just turned right under the power lines and it took me right to the MISWESTGEN plant.

Let me tell you it was freaking scarey. I thought I was in Frankinstein's Laboritory. It looked worse than the pictures.

The deisel energy tank was huge I can't believe that a company would go through the trouble of building such a thing and then only run it once for a couple of hours.

The Comed station was horrific. The fence was all covered with barbed wire. Electrical towers were everwhere. I will never send my kids there.

Well, I guess it's a good thing it's being removed.

ETA: Frankenstein's laboratory, I mean.

[d204mom]

rural said:

proschool said:

I drove out to the site today.


I just turned right under the power lines and it took me right to the MISWESTGEN plant.

Let me tell you it was freaking scarey. I thought I was in Frankinstein's Laboritory. It looked worse than the pictures.

The deisel energy tank was huge I can't believe that a company would go through the trouble of building such a thing and then only run it once for a couple of hours.

The Comed station was horrific. The fence was all covered with barbed wire. Electrical towers were everwhere. I will never send my kids there.

Well, I guess it's a good thing it's being removed.

I would feel a lot better if it was being removed, but no the Comed station stays.

I was also thinking about something else that STAYS. The claim & I believe the backup from Arch shows that diesel fuel was last used in 1999 or so. And it's STILL in the soil. 9 years later.

Yup, I'm afraid a lot more is "staying" than we even know about now.

[proschool]

rural said:

proschool said:

I drove out to the site today.


I just turned right under the power lines and it took me right to the MISWESTGEN plant.

Let me tell you it was freaking scarey. I thought I was in Frankinstein's Laboritory. It looked worse than the pictures.

The deisel energy tank was huge I can't believe that a company would go through the trouble of building such a thing and then only run it once for a couple of hours.

The Comed station was horrific. The fence was all covered with barbed wire. Electrical towers were everwhere. I will never send my kids there.

Well, I guess it's a good thing it's being removed.

ETA: Frankenstein's laboratory, I mean.

P.S. If your kids won't go, means more room for mine, thanks for being so considerate.

I thought the Comed site was pretty scarey and that's staying.

P.S. You're a meanie bo beanie

[macy]

d204mom said:

rural said:

Well, I guess it's a good thing it's being removed.

I would feel a lot better if it was being removed, but no the Comed station stays.

I was also thinking about something else that STAYS. The claim & I believe the backup from Arch shows that diesel fuel was last used in 1999 or so. And it's STILL in the soil. 9 years later.

Yup, I'm afraid a lot more is "staying" than we even know about now.

Me too! I don't think the real deal on what's going on has been put out to all of us.

Don't we all want to know the truth behind what is going on at that site?

[rural]

proschool said:

P.S. You're a meanie bo beanie.

Just holding up a mirror for you.