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Post by doctorwho on Apr 8, 2009 12:17:30 GMT -6
Here is my concern - the continuing north / south divide. Sue, Cathy go 1, 2 in DuPage, but 8, 7 in Will. Dawn was everyone's #5 pick; Chris was #4 in DuPage, #6 in Will. Jerry, Doug, Eric, Don go 1, 2, 3, 4 in Will, but 6, 7, 8, 9 in DuPage. The DuPage vs. Will Co. % splits are equally concerning: Sue: 14.1% vs. 7.8% Cathy: 13.4% v. 8.1% Dawn: 11.4% vs. 9.3% Chris: 11.7% vs. 8.3% By comparison, the biggest DuPage vs. Will Co. split in 2007 was Calcaterra, at 1.0% ( 10.7% vs. 9.7%). The splits for all the other candidates were less than 1%. My point is, we seem to be growing farther apart as a district. I'm hoping there are good people on both sides who recognize this, and are willing to be proactive in addressing it. Not only continuing - but ever growing. When we have PTSA officers playing the north- south card to their buds on e-mails and a Pro Eola group talking about how the 'North shall rise again - what else would one expect. And talks of 'battle plans' etc. Then look at the comment I got today from a northern resident on Facebook because they thought I lived in the south as well as being a private school parent. Doesn't know me from Adam - but simple minds will follow simple stuff... M2 and others lit this class warfare fuse and followers have grasped onto it...sometimes it's not easy to just shut that stuff off. This is the same divide and conquer strategy used for the 06 ref -- and apparently winning is the only thing that matters, not how it's done. Condescending crap like calling the 4 guys in the slate the fab 4 picked up by certain bloggers and emailers - it's even the nuances that are tainted right now... |
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Post by rew on Apr 8, 2009 12:29:14 GMT -6
I agree that the divide is growing. In 06 half the residents in the south didn't know a divide existed, they were new residents with little or no histroy in the district.
They are well aware of the hate now.
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Post by EagleDad on Apr 8, 2009 12:48:59 GMT -6
This is off topic, but I find it mildly hilarious that Yiming Huang, with 1082 votes got approximately 1/6th the number of votes of the re-elected Mayor of the second largest city in Illinois (Aurora). Tom Weisner got 6470 votes.
I wonder if maybe an Aurora mayoral candidate should just outright pay everyone 10 bucks apiece to vote for them.
I really don't want to hear anyone bitching about their property taxes - this is pathetic.
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Post by Arch on Apr 8, 2009 15:49:27 GMT -6
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Post by slp on Apr 8, 2009 16:19:11 GMT -6
This is off topic, but I find it mildly hilarious that Yiming Huang, with 1082 votes got approximately 1/6th the number of votes of the re-elected Mayor of the second largest city in Illinois (Aurora). Tom Weisner got 6470 votes. I wonder if maybe an Aurora mayoral candidate should just outright pay everyone 10 bucks apiece to vote for them. I really don't want to hear anyone bitching about their property taxes - this is pathetic. It's clear to me that the snow we had Sunday night and the resulting cold experinced at the bus stops on Monday morning (the day before the election) influenced voters Yiming Huang's way. |
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Post by Arch on Apr 8, 2009 16:23:39 GMT -6
This is off topic, but I find it mildly hilarious that Yiming Huang, with 1082 votes got approximately 1/6th the number of votes of the re-elected Mayor of the second largest city in Illinois (Aurora). Tom Weisner got 6470 votes. I wonder if maybe an Aurora mayoral candidate should just outright pay everyone 10 bucks apiece to vote for them. I really don't want to hear anyone bitching about their property taxes - this is pathetic. It's clear to me that the snow we had Sunday night and the resulting cold experinced at the bus stops on Monday morning (the day before the election) influenced voters Yiming Huang's way. The IRS is looking into revoking Mother Nature's Non-Profit status.  |
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Post by treehugger on Apr 8, 2009 17:35:04 GMT -6
I give Yiming Huang a tremendous amount of credit. How likely would any of us be to attempt to run for an elected office? I give him alot of credit for trying and, unlike some others who were running, seems to be very child focused and does not have a hidden agenda or an ulterior motive. That speaks volumes in my book.
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Post by sashimi on Apr 8, 2009 18:17:46 GMT -6
I was reading the green board and encouraged that many of the posts advocate the new board being more open and transparent.
An interesting observation was made in regards to the fact that the election yesterday (based on a break down of the results) was not really a north vs. south issue, but instead was a north vs. Tallgrass and White Eagle issue.
I never really thought this through...but I think this is generally speaking, an accurate observation.
I think many really felt this election was about a single issue....reopening boundaries. And l think the fab four were identified by many as a threat towards reopening this issue. This was somewhat due to some good old fashioned slandering by northern PTA leaders, but also due to some assumptions that change really meant rechallenging the status quo.
Given that every community in Will County other than TG and WE will be going to a less crowded NVHS, I think there was either apathy or the inclination to vote against change.
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Post by treehugger on Apr 8, 2009 18:24:47 GMT -6
Mission accomplished.
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Post by Arch on Apr 8, 2009 18:33:01 GMT -6
"See, it's just those two trouble-making subdivisions" I heard that one today... |
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Post by rew on Apr 8, 2009 19:11:38 GMT -6
I could understand if people suspected of EH, after all he lives in TG and has young children. Jerry Huang could have represented a disgruntled portion of May Watts, I guess. But what reason would Doug DiFusco or Don Moscato have to reopen boundaries? They live in Stillwater and could well have opened their own neighborhoods into being reassigned elsewhere. What reason could those two have had for wanting to change boundaries?
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Post by Arch on Apr 8, 2009 19:19:46 GMT -6
I could understand if people suspected of EH, after all he lives in TG and has young children. Jerry Huang could have represented a disgruntled portion of May Watts, I guess. But what reason would Doug DiFusco or Don Moscato have to reopen boundaries? They live in Stillwater and could well have opened their own neighborhoods into being reassigned elsewhere. What reason could those two have had for wanting to change boundaries? They don't. That's the beauty of FUD... it does not have to be true, it just has to scare people. |
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Post by researching on Apr 8, 2009 19:33:12 GMT -6
I could understand if people suspected of EH, after all he lives in TG and has young children. Jerry Huang could have represented a disgruntled portion of May Watts, I guess. But what reason would Doug DiFusco or Don Moscato have to reopen boundaries? They live in Stillwater and could well have opened their own neighborhoods into being reassigned elsewhere. What reason could those two have had for wanting to change boundaries? Exactly but honesty wouldn't fit the agenda. I know of several people from the unaffected southern areas who "wouldn't want the targets painted on" their backs so they don't get too involved. I also know of others who successfully joined forces to get what they wanted in 2006 so they want everything to stay the same. Just to refresh everyone's memory, Spring Brook, Clow, and Welch, joined forces during the 2006 "boundary wars" and did some backdoor dealings. Their under the table tactics worked very well. They literally were able to get the original 4 boundary options thrown out overnight. In 2008 Dr. D. told the Fry PTA that it was down to Fry and Welch in who would have to move from NV, pitting school against school. Then Welch resident and district employee Karla Zozulia puts out that fabricated email about the bridge... Can anyone tell me why someone from the Welch would want to revisit the boundaries? If people took the time they spent reading the FUD about the slate of 4 and did actual research, they would have known that. The Fry community doesn't do backdoor dealings or use under-handed tactics like fabricated memos. We have done everything in the light of day. I am enormously proud of my area. |
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Post by southsidemom on Apr 8, 2009 19:52:34 GMT -6
I agree that the divide is growing. In 06 half the residents in the south didn't know a divide existed, they were new residents with little or no histroy in the district. They are well aware of the hate now. It is easy to create a divide when it is about making a vote that does not come with $$$$ (outwardly). I think there will not be a divide once the ref comes....afterall we are all watching our household pocketbooks right now. Just opened our 401K statement.....it made me sick on the stomach!!!!!! But then again, nothing surprises me in D204 anymore!!!! |
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Post by southsidemom on Apr 8, 2009 19:56:41 GMT -6
"See, it's just those two trouble-making subdivisions" I heard that one today... Someone I was with today said she was cornered by Piehl when picking up her child at Steck and was forced to listen to her mumbling so gave her a vote since she seemed like a nice lady. I told her that Piehl was the same "nice lady" that gave MM a free pass for calling a parent a liar and an MF. She had no idea. What shocked her most is that apparently the Vickers (George and Nancy) endorsed Piehl and she could not imagine them supporting a candidate that excused such awful actions. I said, "Believe it!" |
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