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[doctorwho]

ann said:

bob said:

lacy said:

Yes, I did ask a question. And here's another:

Is there a chance the district won't get the BB land? Or is it really just an issue of price at this point?

lacy, comment how you like and ask whatever you want, it's a free country,,,thus far

The chance is HUGE that the district won't get the land BECAUSE of fair market value on this premium location. It's all about price which leads me to the question of???

Where is the real land for the next high school and more importantly??? where are all of the articles regarding the over crowded situations in the schools today??? Solutions for overcrowding in 08 and 09?? Silence must mean that there currently isn't a problem and there is no need for solutions for the coming years................hence no need for land or a 3rd hs, just a plan to use what we have and shift more boundaries to fill Peterson

So Peterson just became a high school and a middle school ? There is not silence, just no need at present to revisit the same figures and numbers on a weekly basis to try and quiet a few who aren't going to listen anyway.
There is no secret land anywhere that will change the boundaries and somehow screw some group or another, I thought all that panic stuff went away with the groups that have fled the area after the referendum loss, but I guess I was wrong. The odds are not HUGE ( even if capitalized for effect) - but yes everyone would like it settled soon. Spring session in Springfield may put this a little behind target but not far enough to delay opening, which will disappoint some to be sure.

[ann]

not counting extra curricular activities from sports to band to arts

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is this the reason you would like a 3rd hs??? Extra curricular activities??

Still no articles, uproars about the critical overcrowding position today, complaints to the SB about interim plans to handle such horrible conditions in the next two years, or gripes about the portable classrooms at scullen......hhhmmmmmm

Question/discussion could it be that these problems remain manageable??

[doctorwho]

blankcheck said:

I don't think that is correct. They attend classes on a block schedule (90 minutes long) Monday - Thursday with Fridays off. If their grades fall, they then need to attend school on Friday and meet with their teacher. They are free to come and go to school as they please, therefore they are very flexible.

They will be offering more classes next year, and will take up to 600 students.

Then you need to contact Britt Carson and tell her she is wrong as it is in the article ...it's funny all else in the article is taken for fact because it fits an agenda, but that part is dismissed because it doesn't

[ann]

doctorwho said:

ann said:

bob said:

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There is no secret land anywhere .

And your solution when the BB land is deemed cost prohibitive??

[doctorwho]

ann said:

not counting extra curricular activities from sports to band to arts

is this the reason you would like a 3rd hs??? Extra curricular activities??

Still no articles, uproars about the critical overcrowding position today, complaints to the SB about interim plans to handle such horrible conditions in the next two years, or gripes about the portable classrooms at scullen......hhhmmmmmm

Question/discussion could it be that these problems remain manageable??[/quote]

Hardly seems worth responding intelligently to hysterics but one more time. A 3rd high school is not being built for extra curriculars, however they are part of the high school experience. You cannot include and exclude whatever you like to manipulate numbers to fit an agenda, no one is going to buy into that baloney any more. The conditions that existed before still exist.
You may want to get that keyboard looked at, seems like some keys may be sticking.

[bob]

ann said:

doctorwho said:

ann said:

bob said:

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There is no secret land anywhere .

And your solution when the BB land is deemed cost prohibitive??

Which it hasn't?

[gumby]

archwinsome said:

Ann, The unfortunate way of things is that when lawyers or consultants want to create more billable hours, sh!t takes more time. That's just an unfortunate fact of life. I'm sure you've been 'held up' on something in your life due to someone else's horsesh!t.

It is not just a matter of increasing billable hours. Few attorneys with experience and working for reputable firms look at it that way. Most attorneys have plenty to do without wanting to wrack up hours. That characterization is worthlessly inflammatory.

The truth is that lawyers are bound to provide the best possible legal services to their clients. That means diligence is key. Without it, malpractice suits become viable.

Personally, when I was in my previous law firms (both among the top ten in Chicago), I would research and work something six ways to Sunday to ensure that I was doing everything in the manner expected of a lawyer representing his client at that calibre of a firm. Yes, that takes time. But, I would rather keep my job than be sued out of existence.

So yes, sh!t takes more time.

[doctorwho]

ann said:

doctorwho said:

ann said:

bob said:

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There is no secret land anywhere .

And your solution when the BB land is deemed cost prohibitive??

If and when that happens it will have to be addressed, however it is unlikely. It has already been stated that there are $ built into the referendum over the original offer price. There is also the possibility that the school could be scaled back some as has been mentioned by everyone from Howie Crouse to others on this board, just as Neuqua was. The confirmed prices for land - like Lehigh Station are in line with the offer price, and surely not out of budget, as opposed to wish list prices that are unverified. But you keep lighting those candles that this will fail.

[bob]

But when you can milk a trust and pay your son who is representing the trust in this trial, you have no real incentive to do things quickly.

[ann]

So yes, sh!t takes more time. [/quote]

Understood,,,
but it doesn't change the dynamics of the current or very near future 'overcrowding' issues that allegedly we have and yet still there are no plans for alleviation regardless of the land purchase timing....everyone who voted yes should be jumping up and down for plans to help our students have a more 'comfortable' experience...................................

[gumby]

ann said:

doctorwho said:

ann said:

bob said:

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There is no secret land anywhere .

And your solution when the BB land is deemed cost prohibitive??

The question back to you, and maybe I have missed this, is what is it that you want. What is your plan?

Just because the newspaper articles showing overcrowding have gone away does not mean that the overcrowding issue itself has gone away. It does not work that way.

What inside information do you have indicating the HUGE chance that the district will not get the land? There are so many variables and other aspects to which we are not privy. Are you assuming to have some knowledge of these?

[bob]

We know see the next thing CFO is going to used to start trouble with. I expect Christine and George Vickers to say something along these lines and then followed by a Sara Hooker story in the Herald fed to her by Ari. Oops I almost forgot, the LTE in the Sun should be appearing soon. Maybe even some CFO signs to give School Board Member Christine Vickers support when she testifies AGAINST the will of the people during the trial.

[gumby]

bob said:

But when you can milk a trust and pay your son who is representing the trust in this trial, you have no real incentive to do things quickly.

I suppose, being an attorney, I do not ascribe bad intent as easily as most non-lawyers. I do not think there is any real way to prove one position or other.

[gumby]

bob said:

We know see the next thing CFO is going to used to start trouble with. I expect Christine and George Vickers to say something along these lines and then followed by a Sara Hooker story in the Herald fed to her by Ari. Oops I almost forgot, the LTE in the Sun should be appearing soon. Maybe even some CFO signs to give School Board Member Christine Vickers support when she testifies AGAINST the will of the people during the trial.

Ugh. I am so not in the mood to hear from them and their ilk at this juncture. Needless blathering and frothing.

[ann]

[quote
The question back to you, and maybe I have missed this, is what is it that you want. What is your plan?

Just because the newspaper articles showing overcrowding have gone away does not mean that the overcrowding issue itself has gone away. It does not work that way.

What inside information do you have indicating the HUGE chance that the district will not get the land? There are so many variables and other aspects to which we are not privy. Are you assuming to have some knowledge of these?[/quote]

I would never be so presumptious to have an 'easy solve' for so many layers. But the big one is that if the SB worked a bit more out of their box.... buildings would be better utilized and temporary solutions found for the few mega classes.

Squeaky wheels get the grease and ain't nobody squeaking about their horrible conditions at any school location..Maybe Britt can hustle up a quick piece??

I would never share my insider info here....just be looking for a Plan B