Take My Land

[bob]

blankcheck said:

Ashbury was not put into WVHS.

The Ashwood/Macom land in Sector G.

[EagleDad]

My guess is...bob has some interesting speculation.

Let's work with this for a second...

Let's see, if the Macom land was used for the 3rd HS, would that possibly change? Would those homes possibly be reassigned to MVHS? Gee, I just don't know.

[blankcheck]

I guess those who worked on the last referendum could answer that question best - they are all aware of who donates are they not? I sure found out when I worked on the 2001 referendum. n

Plus, you can not tell me that they were not wondering why developers and builders did not donate this time around. That was a huge part of their finances in prior referendums.

[EagleDad]

bc, are you responsible for the Freshman centers?

[EagleDad]

blankcheck said:

Plus, you can not tell me that they were not wondering why developers and builders did not donate this time around.

I can tell you why they weren't wondering - At least 5 builders donated in '06. You don't wonder why something didn't happen when it did.

[doctorwho]

lacy said:

So Dr. Who, you're saying that everyone who wants to look at Macom must have some hidden reason other than thinking it may be a viable alternative?

This is the concept that offends me.

Secondly, when people bash TG and other southern subdivisions, don't be surprised when that causes hard feelings. That really can't be done and then turn around and say "The district just can't go through this again"..... Give me a break.

When the offer has been exposed as having more holes than Swiss cheese - yes, I do see hidden reasons. Do you see a rash of people jumping on this from outside that area ? No. Why , because they actually look at the issues, the powerlines, the unincoprorated area issue, the fact it is MORE EXPENSIVE than the BB bid by $12 Million freakin $$, the fact the seller doesn't won 39 acres of the land he is selling, also bashing the HS he made the slick brochure for which means he meant nothing that was in there - the fact that no studies have been done on the land, the fact the power lines have to be moved --and say, we don't need this headache. Again, if he wants to donate the land for NO cost to the SD - then suddenly it has to be reconsidered, but to spend MORE MONEY for less benefit - no. Yet those who are crying for this to be looked at more closely look past ALL of that because they want something else. If you are willing to spend more money for a lesser sight, there must be another reason.

As far as hard feelings, when a certain group got up in the middle of a SB meeting and basically told the rest of the school district to stuff it, in a very direct manner, they weren't worried about hard feelings, why should I be, so you give me a break.

[bob]

blankcheck said:

Plus, you can not tell me that they were not wondering why developers and builders did not donate this time around. That was a huge part of their finances in prior referendums.

Well there are least 4 construction /home builders that contributed to 204tk for the 06 ref. Check the IL Election Board website.

[doctorwho]

archwinsome said:

Blank:

Are you suggesting that the groups trying to get a 3rd HS should have not accepted money because someone donating it actually creates more kids in the district and adds to the problem they are trying to help solve?

Not accepting it would be a contradiction.

why are we overlooking the fact that the land MACOM held WAS PART OF THE PLANNED GROWTH - already approved..this is not stopping someone from changing commercially zoned land to family housing, this was always going to be housing and was part of the population growth projection already - who was trying to stop them ?

[macy]

eagledad said:

I'm not drawing any conclusions here, but FYI Dave McCammon is a resident of Tallgrass.

A new high school on the Macom site would be about 1000 feet from his house.

lol! I think calling someone out for where they live is a GIANT conclusion. Why would you say that??? I guess you are drawing a conclusion by pointing that out. I can't find any other way to interpret your comments.

What other message would you be trying to send? In fairness, did you point out where the other editorial authors came from? If not, I think you should. It would provide us with a clear view of the extent of their neighborhood's support of the last referendum. Then we could all draw our own conclusions on what the facts are.

WTheck? From what I remember, TG voted to support the referendum by a 60/40 margin. There are many here that did a wonderful job in supporting what they thought was best for kids. Yet, some on this board, continue to talk of TG in a negative light.

What's the problem you have with the neighborhood. There are many posts here that reference TG in a negative way. What's the deal? 60/40... Who are you slamminG AND WHY? How did your neighborhood vote?

[bob]

From what I remember, TG voted to support the referendum by a 60/40 margin. There are many here that did a wonderful job in supporting what they thought was best for kids.

Great point.

[EagleDad]

slamming? jeez, I was just giving some background.

Feel free to find the other authors, I've already said so.

Yes, there are many, many wonderful people in Tallgrass that fully support our schools and our kids (ALL OF OUR KIDS), don't imply for a second that I think otherwise.

But are you one?

[doctorwho]

macy said:

eagledad said:

I'm not drawing any conclusions here, but FYI Dave McCammon is a resident of Tallgrass.

A new high school on the Macom site would be about 1000 feet from his house.

lol! I think calling someone out for where they live is a GIANT conclusion. Why would you say that??? I guess you are drawing a conclusion by pointing that out. I can't find any other way to interpret your comments.

What other message would you be trying to send? In fairness, did you point out where the other editorial authors came from? If not, I think you should. It would provide us with a clear view of the extent of their neighborhood's support of the last referendum. Then we could all draw our own conclusions on what the facts are.

WTheck? From what I remember, TG voted to support the referendum by a 60/40 margin. There are many here that did a wonderful job in supporting what they thought was best for kids. Yet, some on this board, continue to talk of TG in a negative light.

What's the problem you have with the neighborhood. There are many posts here that reference TG in a negative way. What's the deal? 60/40... Who are you slamminG AND WHY? How did your neighborhood vote?

After some of the behavior during the referendum you can actually ask the question why some of that exists ? And yet I absolutely agree you cannot condemn any whole for parts of it, and yes there were many there who worked the other way in face of very visible negativity and were concerned about retribution in some cases - that was very sad. I realize the area was very divided and I wouldn't wish that upon any area. I remember the accounts of threats and possibly damage with both sides being accused - as was covered in the papers as well as on this board. Of my 3 relatives that live in TG 2 worked for passage, the other was/is part of the vocal opposition/ WVHS bashing etc.
If I remember the voting results right ( and ED if I remember you were there at the counting and updating us live) - both W/E and Watts had huge turnouts and I believe 80%+ Yes. ED can re-verify and correct me as it's been a while since we went over those stats...I don't remember all of the rest as those are the areas I was involved with most.

[macy]

bob said:

From what I remember, TG voted to support the referendum by a 60/40 margin. There are many here that did a wonderful job in supporting what they thought was best for kids.

Great point.

Thanks Bob!

I don't get the continued negative spin on TG.... Despite a boundary outcome the neighborhood wasn't at all content with, and a bitter fight, they decided what was in the best interest of the kids with a voter margin that compared with the majority of the district... But yet, Some keep making negative references on this board towards people in that neighborhood. Not really fair.

[wvhsparent]

We will always have those certain people from ALL the areas that ruin it for the rest.

[EagleDad]

doctorwho said:

If I remember the voting results right ( and ED if I remember you were there at the counting and updating us live) - both W/E and Watts had huge turnouts and 80%+ Yes. ED can re-verify...I don't remember all of the rest as those are the areas I was involved with most.

I could, but I won't - it's irrlevant, the refererendum was passed by a wide margin, by the community as a whole, it was a landslide everywhere. It's even more reason not to let all of the fine work that's been done so far be undone by a few.