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Post by doctorwho on Jan 19, 2007 21:44:50 GMT -6
We will always have those certain people from ALL the areas that ruin it for the rest. Agreed -- every area had it's trouble makers..... As far as TG, I have absolutely no issues with any area as a whole ( like anyone should care what I think anyway) - again with relatives there, and a certain lot that shall go unnamed that was to be my next address until we decided on a snowbird place and keeping our current house instead that would have made me a resident there - but some of the most visible opposition still resides in that area, and was so vocal during the process they stood out - regardless of how small that group may be. It is far from the only place where there is discontent so if that is the way any of my comments have come out, I apologize as I agree it is unfair to those who worked hard there also.
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Post by warriorpride on Jan 19, 2007 21:47:46 GMT -6
Thanks Bob! I don't get the continued negative spin on TG.... Despite a boundary outcome the neighborhood wasn't at all content with, and a bitter fight, they decided what was in the best interest of the kids with a voter margin that compared with the majority of the district... But yet, Some keep making negative references on this board towards people in that neighborhood. Not really fair. For crying out loud! People are not slamming TG or any other subdivisions. It was pointed out where this person lives, which was likely a factor in his position stated in his LTE. Just because someone comments on someone else's statement, and we happen to know what subdivision that person lives DOES NOT mean that anyone is slamming or generalizing about a subdvision. This rabble-rousing is getting old.
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Post by macy on Jan 19, 2007 21:52:28 GMT -6
slamming? jeez, I was just giving some background. Feel free to find the other authors, I've already said so. Yes, there are many, many wonderful people in Tallgrass that fully support our schools and our kids (ALL OF OUR KIDS), don't imply for a second that I think otherwise. But are you one? Of course I'm one that supports the kid's best interest. Just because I question what the district puts out to the residents (especially information in regards to the third school), doesn't mean I don't have good intentions towards the children. To imply my intentions are bad is wrong and unfair. I think that might be an issue on this board. Those that question things, at times, are stereotyped into the voteNO crowd. It seems that everyone that disagrees is immediately labeled here in a negative "ANTI-KID" light. To me, that's a shame as I find this board to have many positive benefits to parents and residents with all different perspectives. The biggest downside of the board is the bias towards dissent from popular "board" opinion. LOL! Having said that, I know sometimes it's so hard to be Fair to someone you don't agree with but ultimately will tolerate a lot from those you think are on "your side". Oh well, I've ranted enough. There is nothing I can do about it. To reply to your question on the basis of my motivation: What have I ever said that would have any other interest in this whole discussion that the benefit of all kids? In fact, one could say that anyone that wastes as much time here as most of us do, are deeply interested in the best interest of kids despite all the conflict and mud slinging. Isn't there something better we can all be doing??? LOL! Boxed Wine maybe??? I might second guess things the district puts out and want more information, but to me, that's the best for all of us.... Not just one neighborhood. I personally know some/a good portion of the authors in the latest editorials and the others can be figured out from a simple white pages search. Honestly. To be honest with you, it's not worth it to me to post where they live. I'm not interested in igniting the bitter warfare we experienced in the boundary fight last year. That crap needs to stop. I've just seem many recent negative references to TG that I thought were unjust based on the support the neighborhood had for the referendum.
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Post by macy on Jan 19, 2007 21:55:41 GMT -6
Thanks Bob! I don't get the continued negative spin on TG.... Despite a boundary outcome the neighborhood wasn't at all content with, and a bitter fight, they decided what was in the best interest of the kids with a voter margin that compared with the majority of the district... But yet, Some keep making negative references on this board towards people in that neighborhood. Not really fair. For crying out loud! People are not slamming TG or any other subdivisions. It was pointed out where this person lives, which was likely a factor in his position stated in his LTE. Just because someone comments on someone else's statement, and we happen to know what subdivision that person lives DOES NOT mean that anyone is slamming or generalizing about a subdvision. This rabble-rousing is getting old. Warriorpride, sorry I hit a nerve, didn't mean to do so. I just have seen many recent editorial authors called out for living in TG and haven't seen any of the many others called out for where they live. If I missed those callouts, let me know. Not to be sarcastic, but I hope people are calling everyone out for where they live, not just one neighborhood. I just haven't seen it done to any other neighborhood.
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Post by doctorwho on Jan 19, 2007 22:02:07 GMT -6
For crying out loud! People are not slamming TG or any other subdivisions. It was pointed out where this person lives, which was likely a factor in his position stated in his LTE. Just because someone comments on someone else's statement, and we happen to know what subdivision that person lives DOES NOT mean that anyone is slamming or generalizing about a subdvision. This rabble-rousing is getting old. Warriorpride, sorry I hit a nerve, didn't mean to do so. I just have seen many recent editorial authors called out for living in TG and haven't seen any of the many others called out for where they live. If I missed those callouts, let me know. Not to be sarcastic, but I hope people are calling everyone out for where they live, not just one neighborhood. I just haven't seen it done to any other neighborhood. Box Wine does seem to be the common ground.
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Post by macy on Jan 19, 2007 22:09:00 GMT -6
Warriorpride, sorry I hit a nerve, didn't mean to do so. I just have seen many recent editorial authors called out for living in TG and haven't seen any of the many others called out for where they live. If I missed those callouts, let me know. Not to be sarcastic, but I hope people are calling everyone out for where they live, not just one neighborhood. I just haven't seen it done to any other neighborhood. Box Wine does seem to be the common ground. Agreed, but somehow I think we'd battle over red or white. I call first, white...
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Post by warriorpride on Jan 19, 2007 22:09:11 GMT -6
Lacy/Macy have been hitting 2 nerves lately:
1) the I'm-going-to-keep-saying-that-people-on-this-board-are-slamming-certain-subdivisions-even-though-it's-not-true nerve
2) the I'm-going-to-keep-saying-that-the-Macom-site-is-clearly-a-better-choice-and-the-SB-doesn't-know-what-it's-doing nerve
We've heard plenty of times that this is how you feel, loud and clear. You can keep repeating it, if you really want to (yes, it's a free country & you're entitled to your opinion), but it's not really necessary - we heard you the first 50 times.
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Post by doctorwho on Jan 19, 2007 22:24:30 GMT -6
Box Wine does seem to be the common ground. Agreed, but somehow I think we'd battle over red or white. I call first, white... see, more in common than you think - white here also.
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Post by macy on Jan 19, 2007 22:31:09 GMT -6
Lacy/Macy have been hitting 2 nerves lately: 1) the I'm-going-to-keep-saying-that-people-on-this-board-are-slamming-certain-subdivisions-even-though-it's-not-true nerve 2) the I'm-going-to-keep-saying-that-the-Macom-site-is-clearly-a-better-choice-and-the-SB-doesn't-know-what-it's-doing nerve We've heard plenty of times that this is how you feel, loud and clear. You can keep repeating it, if you really want to (yes, it's a free country & you're entitled to your opinion), but it's not really necessary - we heard you the first 50 times. First off, I'm not lacy... do the research.. WHAT THE HECK? Why on earth other than the fact the names ryhme do you think I'm multiple posting? Can't the moderators prove this to not be true? If you can, please do it and soon, this is wrong. If I said "Warriorpride, your statements seem to mirror the same thought process as _____________. yOU ARE THE SAME PERSON DOUBLE POSTING!" It would be pure speculation. It's just bull, completely false and wrong to keep saying that we are the same. What have I ever said that makes you think I'm double posting? Is that what you do with all that disagree with you? Tag them all together. Give me a break. Prove it. You can't because it's not a reality. Not the same person. I've asked for this to stop in earlier posts. GO BACK AND READ... You do the research. You stated that I've made a false statement. I've read two (maybe more) postings from people that have called out TG/Pencross Knoll (remember the "Close enough" comment) on this board. How many other editorial authors have been called out on where they live? Really, please, I might have missed some, point them out to me. As far as me Macy stating the the Macom site is better? I did? Where, when??? Copy, paste and quote for me since I may not remember that quote. I don't remember definitively saying it's a better sitenthan BB. I have said I'm concerned about the ultimate outcome of the BB land in light of the fact that a 12 member jury will decide. My other concern is that I do not feel as if the SB, district has provided all they know on the Macom parcel. Stop the lies. I'm not lacy. It's not right. Moderators??? Can't you do anything about this?
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Post by macy on Jan 19, 2007 22:32:07 GMT -6
Agreed, but somehow I think we'd battle over red or white. I call first, white... see, more in common than you think - white here also. LOL! See, that's huge... Progress
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Post by EagleDad on Jan 19, 2007 23:50:42 GMT -6
First off, I'm not lacy... Can't the moderators prove this to not be true? If you can, please do it and soon, this is wrong. It is wrong, as someone who can verify it I can say without a doubt Lacy and Macy are not the same. [otherwise I would have banned both your butts for double posting immediately ] FYI, The moderators and I are aware that a couple people here have signed up for duplicate accounts in the last couple of weeks. I'm telling you now, use the second one, even once, and your gone on both. Double account posting won't be tolerated, heck I don't even have 2 (OK 'admin', but that's still awaiting Topher's return, sniff).
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Post by EagleDad on Jan 19, 2007 23:55:17 GMT -6
Agreed, but somehow I think we'd battle over red or white. I call first, white... see, more in common than you think - white here also. I'm red - nothing says class like Red box wine. Sorry to disagree, but I have to set my own path. Here's a treat, someone go back and drag up the very first box wine thread/quote.
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Post by Arch on Jan 20, 2007 0:07:53 GMT -6
Red or dead.
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Post by lacy on Jan 20, 2007 0:30:41 GMT -6
First off, I'm not lacy... Can't the moderators prove this to not be true? If you can, please do it and soon, this is wrong. It is wrong, as someone who can verify it I can say without a doubt Lacy and Macy are not the same. [otherwise I would have banned both your butts for double posting immediately ] FYI, The moderators and I are aware that a couple people here have signed up for duplicate accounts in the last couple of weeks. I'm telling you now, use the second one, even once, and your gone on both. Double account posting won't be tolerated, heck I don't even have 2 (OK 'admin', but that's still awaiting Topher's return, sniff). Gosh, I sure am glad you finally cleared that up! Hope you all enjoyed some wine - I did. Hope you had fun while I was away! Things still seem a little tense - perhaps you should have had a bit more. ;D
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Post by Arch on Jan 20, 2007 0:45:08 GMT -6
So, Lacy:
How are we better off with a piece of land where we still don't know the cost of what's involved to make it suitable to build a HS (all the Naperville, Will county, ComEd issues, Road issues etc) not to mention boundaries?
Since home sales have slumped (according to Macom) then this land will still be vacant if BB falls through or is set at too high a price. We can approach it then... Unless of course, there are still people interested in buying lots and he sells them and it's no longer on the market but instead put to its intended use. In that case, the jury would not see that there is alternative land to BB and would rule accordingly.
It would be smart for the District to wait Macom out. Maybe Macom has a cash flow problem and will be willing to go MUCH MUCH lower and put more effort into getting warm-fuzzy stamps all over it by survey groups and solving the comEd and road issues. Since no one seems to want to build a home there, this seems like a decent strategy.
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