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Post by lacy on Oct 14, 2007 19:42:26 GMT -6
How much due diligence should be conducted before they spend $20 million more than they might have to in your opinion? Or is money no object, because it's BB or bust for you? It was $17M before, and now we're up to $20M - you are making assumptions here. Why don't you wait to here the details before constantly repeating your assumptions as if they are facts? How are we every going to hear the facts - with the SB running off into executive session and not allowing public comment on agenda related items?
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Post by lacy on Oct 14, 2007 19:43:43 GMT -6
I took the liberty of transfering a post from another thread because it was very well said by justvote: ..... If a quality school can be built for the agreed upon price ($124MM) it makes absolutely no difference what percentage of the cost is land and what percentage of the cost is building. The voters have spoken. The only ones who now want a "do-over" are those who have never wanted a third high school or those didn't like the boundaries. At the end of the day, nothing has changed that would warrant a "do-over" UNLESS the product in question cannot be delivered at the agreed upon price. End of story. $17 million isn't Monopoly money. There will be differences. What will they be?
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Post by macy on Oct 14, 2007 19:43:44 GMT -6
How much due diligence should be conducted before they spend $20 million more than they might have to in your opinion? Or is money no object, because it's BB or bust for you? It was $17M before, and now we're up to $20M - you are making assumptions here. Why don't you wait to here the details before constantly repeating your assumptions as if they are facts? You are right. I'm assuming doing my own math. That's the best I can do since I've gotten no feedback from the SB. In my opinion, it would worth it to pursue, look at, do the due diligence for all properties. Getting tired of saying that. If we can save $10 million on any one, that's meaningful to me. Maybe not to you and that's seriously fine with me. It's your opinion. It's just not everyone elses. We all have different thoughts. That's the importance of a venue for public comment.
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Post by momof3 on Oct 14, 2007 19:54:42 GMT -6
It was $17M before, and now we're up to $20M - you are making assumptions here. Why don't you wait to here the details before constantly repeating your assumptions as if they are facts? How are we every going to hear the facts - with the SB running off into executive session and not allowing public comment on agenda related items? Just curious, what facts will they get from public comment? I'm not being sarcastic, just asking? If I go and sign up and say "I am for the 3rd high school opening ASAP regardless of location" how is that a fact? That's how it works. The sb does not answer during public comment.
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Post by wvhsmomcares on Oct 14, 2007 19:58:24 GMT -6
I think the idea is that residents are able to ask about the 248th property in comparison nature, and that macom's property can be considered. right now they have not considered it with all the issues on the table.
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 14, 2007 19:59:52 GMT -6
Did anyone else get this? It came into my email from: L Johnson [concerned204supporter@hotmail.com]? Wow, I go out to dinner and 6 pages of posts ! Yes I had this too earlier -- and it set me to laughing about the posts on thinking for themselves versus the followers, when all the talking points were outlined here. Coincidence I guess. Yet ripping 204tk for the chains of e-mails before the vote. The internet is a wonderful thing. I especially like the fact that they can tell the boundaries won't change - plain and simple - bull -oney. And I guess we can just take $21 M from the 3rd HS referendum and put A/C in the ES. There is some extremely poor staff work put into this e-mail. But the message is loud and clear.
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Post by wvhsparent on Oct 14, 2007 20:01:10 GMT -6
Agreed. But, the way you answered that question about the meeting, it sounded like something a BM would quickly be able to answer. And let's face it, M2 is liked by all people whether you dislike his actions or not. I am on record as not being a fan of M2, on many levels. But I do give him the respect due his position as SB Prez. I also know bob, we agree on a lot and disagree on a few things too. bob is not M2.
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Post by gatormom on Oct 14, 2007 20:01:19 GMT -6
I think the idea is that residents are able to ask about the 248th property in comparison nature, and that macom's property can be considered. right now they have not considered it with all the issues on the table. How do you know that?
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Post by momof3 on Oct 14, 2007 20:01:20 GMT -6
I think the idea is that residents are able to ask about the 248th property in comparison nature, and that macom's property can be considered. right now they have not considered it with all the issues on the table. ok, I buy that. Is that how it worked at the boundary meetings? I never went to one because I didn't (and still don't) care where my kids end up. People asked questions and the board responded? How did they decide who answered or did residents asked questions to specific board members?
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Post by wvhsmomcares on Oct 14, 2007 20:03:40 GMT -6
From what I understand, White Eagle should be concerned, I understand something equal to a tire factor will be put next to the school to get the price at BB where they want. Hopefully, our sb will not allow big developers at BB to direct what happends. At least Macom is easily understood.
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Post by doctorwho on Oct 14, 2007 20:05:40 GMT -6
I think the idea is that residents are able to ask about the 248th property in comparison nature, and that macom's property can be considered. right now they have not considered it with all the issues on the table. ok, I buy that. Is that how it worked at the boundary meetings? I never went to one because I didn't (and still don't) care where my kids end up. People asked questions and the board responded? How did they decide who answered or did residents asked questions to specific board members? Um no - the boundary meetings were informational meetings set up for that specific purpose -- scheduled SB meetings protocol allows 3 minutes per speaker - there is NO response.
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Post by wvhsmomcares on Oct 14, 2007 20:05:56 GMT -6
Gator I know that because SB officials have publicly said that they are gathering the information, which translates into we have not met and discussed the possible purchase.
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Post by wvhsmomcares on Oct 14, 2007 20:06:36 GMT -6
Boundry meetings were input sessions, to gather input. Period.
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Post by wvhsparent on Oct 14, 2007 20:06:54 GMT -6
From what I understand, White Eagle should be concerned, I understand something equal to a tire factor will be put next to the school to get the price at BB where they want. Hopefully, our sb will not allow big developers at BB to direct what happends. At least Macom is easily understood. I don't follow...what are you referring to? PREIT??
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Post by bob on Oct 14, 2007 20:07:25 GMT -6
I think the idea is that residents are able to ask about the 248th property in comparison nature, and that macom's property can be considered. right now they have not considered it with all the issues on the table. How do you know what the SB has or has not considered since the SB meeting after the judgement?
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