Question about capacity

[kae]

I wouldn't want to call anybody a liar, because that would just be plain rude.

We're not even talking about statistics here. We can't even get accurate data. We haven't even gotten to the statistics yet.

1) Understand the data
2) Don't use incomparable definitions
3) Don't deliberately misinterpret the information

We haven't got accurate data yet.

[momof3]

Topher - I am 100% with you on the WORKING TOGETHER comment. I have come to the conclusion that there are people posting on this board with only one goal in mind - to create confusion, hoping to acheive their NO agenda. ...It's almost like being the 'spokesperson' for CFO. That's why, I'll say it again, I think that group's goal is a NO outcome, no matter the cost to this district or our kids.. NOT trying to provide realistic solutions to our problems. (And by 'cost' I don't just mean money.)

[momthreekids]

Also the SB is predicting a lot of kids from the 248th sites. 595 at Peterson, 260 at an TBD MS, and 335 kids in the HS level. With this growth being so slow I don't think these kids will be coming any time soon. I feel we should wait to see what happens with this growth.

[momthreekids]

This may be a rumor, but I heard the Thompson builders got out of Ashwood Creek and is trying to sell his model. I feel this area is going to grow slowly. I don't think some of the construction is set to start until 2007.

Also these are very high priced homes from the 600 to 1 mil range. I feel this will also be another factor in its slow growth. I think Howie talked about this in regards to Peterson sitting empty.

[wvhsparent]

momthreekids said:

This may be a rumor, but I heard the Thompson builders got out of Ashwood Creek and is trying to sell his model. I feel this area is going to grow slowly. I don't think some of the construction is set to start until 2007.

Also these are very high priced homes from the 600 to 1 mil range. I feel this will also be another factor in its slow growth. I think Howie talked about this in regards to Peterson sitting empty.

Per Schimd - (WVHS Principle) Reps from the developers are meeting with him today to try to come up with a plan for them to promote their assigned HS - WVHS.
I see this as a good sign with some good PR coming WVHS's way.

[gumby]

I think this entire process wil be very good for WV. It is finally getting the positive attention it deserves.

[refbasics]

momthreekids said:

This may be a rumor, but I heard the Thompson builders got out of Ashwood Creek and is trying to sell his model. I feel this area is going to grow slowly. I don't think some of the construction is set to start until 2007.

Also these are very high priced homes from the 600 to 1 mil range. I feel this will also be another factor in its slow growth. I think Howie talked about this in regards to Peterson sitting empty.

I drove around Ashwood the other day. Ashwood Creek (south of scullen off 248) looked like 4 houses were being lived in. Several model homes built on juneberry- you come out your front door and there is a gigantic, white cell tower across the street (??!); 650K for that?


Ashwood Park- 111th north to 103rd- looked like 4 houses being lived in; these houses are $750K+ the ES (Peterson is is the far northwestern corner of the whole Ashwood Creek & Park area- and it's about 1 'block' (i should have measured with my car) from the RR tracks (??) I suppose no one would have wanted their expensive house to be that close (!) to the RR tracks so that's why this parcel of land was donated to build the school on. The club will also be in this part of the subdivision.

Then there is Ashwood Crossings- 103rd north to 95th(Wolf Rd when it jogs southwest). This was supposed to have townhomes, retail, maybe a church or mosque; but there was a naperville planning commission last nite Wed 3/1 to change the townhomes to retail- i think- i don't understand all the zoning letters (!)- see below for info:

naperville.il.us/emplibrary/PCA03012006.pdf


AGENDA
NAPERVILLE PLAN COMMISSION
MARCH 1, 2006 - 7:00 P.M. – COUNCIL CHAMBERS
A. Call to order
B. Approve minutes for January 18, 2006.
PUBLIC HEARING

C. PC Case 1382 – Water Street Study
Location: West Branch of the DuPage River on the north, Aurora Avenue on the south, Main Street on the east, and Webster Avenue on the west.
Request: 1. Review the proposed Water Street Vision Statement and identify future development goals for the Water Street Study Area. 2. Consider a text Amendment to Section 6-1-6 (Definitions), Section 6-2 (General Zoning Provisions) and Section 6-7I-3 (Transitional Use District, Conditional Uses) of the Municipal Code to establish redevelopment regulations applicable only to the Water Street Study Area.
Petitioner: City Staff.
(The Official Notice for case 1382 was published in the Naperville Sun on February 12, 2006).

D. PC Case 1538 – Ashwood Crossing
Location: Southwest corner of 95th Street and 248th Avenue, north and south of Wolfe’s Crossing Road.
Request: Approval of an annexation, rezoning from Will County A-1 and City of Naperville R1A and R3A to City of Naperville B2 (Community Shopping Center), OCI (Office, Commercial and Institutional), and a conditional use for “car washes when used in conjunction with the automobile service station” in the B2 District. The petitioner is proposing to develop retail, service, office, and religious institutional uses.Petitioner: Macom Corporation represented by Kathy West with Dommermuth, Brestal, Cobine and West.
(The Official Notice for case 1538 was published in the Naperville Sun on July
17, 2005).
E. PC Case 1558 - Ashwood Club
Location: West of Ashwood Road at Chinaberry Circle.
Request: Approval of a Preliminary/Final Plat of Resubdivision, Site Plan and Building Elevations; as well as Zoning Variances to: (i) allow detached accessory structures on the subject parcel that occupy more than twenty five percent (25%) of the rear yard area in the residential district; (ii) reduce the required front yard and corner side yard setbacks for the subject property from thirty (30) feet to twenty (20) feet; and (iii) to allow for an off-street parking facility to be located in the front and corner side yards of a residential district.
Naperville Plan Commission Meeting
March 1, 2006
Page 2
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Petitioner: The Macom Corporation.
STAFF REQUESTS THIS BE CONTINUED TO MARCH 15, 2006.F. PC Case1559 – Text Amendment – to Section 6-2-7 (Boats, Snowmobiles on Trailers; Recreation Vehicles) PC 1560 – Text Amendment – to Section 6-2-8 (Home Occupation Regulations) PC 1561 – Text Amendment – to Section 6-2-20 (Motor Vehicle Regulations in Residential Districts)
Petitioner: City staff
(The Official Notice for cases 1559, 1560, and 1561 was published in the Naperville Sun on December 26, 28 and 30, 2005).
G. PC Case 1565 – Avere Subdivision
Location: 7 S 451 Ironwood Drive
Request: The applicant requests approval of Annexation, Rezoning to R1A Low Density Single-Family Residence District)
Petitioner: Krause Custom Homes, Inc. represented by James Saloga.
(The Official Notice for case 1564 was published in the Naperville Sun on January 29, 2006).
PRESENTATION
H. Pc Case 207066 – Wilkins Subdivision
Location: Northwest corner of Eagle Street and 6th Avenue.
Request: Approval of a Preliminary/Final Subdivision Plat.
Petitioner: Charles Wilkins.
I. Adjourn

[momthreekids]

I saw that commission report a few days ago.

A friend of mine lives in Ashwood and boy talk about being mad. I don't blame her.

[warriorpride]

momthreekids said:

This may be a rumor, but I heard the Thompson builders got out of Ashwood Creek and is trying to sell his model. I feel this area is going to grow slowly. I don't think some of the construction is set to start until 2007.

Also these are very high priced homes from the 600 to 1 mil range. I feel this will also be another factor in its slow growth. I think Howie talked about this in regards to Peterson sitting empty.

There are about 20 builders listed for the Ashwood developments, so if one is leaving, it doesn't mean that all development is stopped in that area. I drove by it the other day, and there ARE houses under contruction there (very nice, I might add).

[fence]

I think they were just a little behind the curve on that subdivision. If that were done a few years ago, it would be sold out, but now, unfortunately at that price range, sales are not going to be brisk. That's why Kinloch isn't done yet either. King's Court builders sold off some of their lots to a bunch of other builders to get out of there faster.

[refbasics]

Please drive IN TO (not drive by) Ashwood Creek, Park- most of the houses you see are MODEL HOMES- about 10 model homes in Ashwood Creek and 10 model homes in Ashwood Park. From 103rd to Wolf Road- Ashwood Crossings- no homes or retail- nothing.

[refbasics]

fence said:

I think they were just a little behind the curve on that subdivision. If that were done a few years ago, it would be sold out, but now, unfortunately at that price range, sales are not going to be brisk. That's why Kinloch isn't done yet either. King's Court builders sold off some of their lots to a bunch of other builders to get out of there faster.

I agree with you on Ashwood- Kinloch- i don't know about as much. This was the last 'niche' left- the newly constructed 750+ niche- as a person who has transferred often, and having lived in many cities- it is MUCH easier and quicker to sell a newer home that a 5+ year old home- and, when you are transferred a lot, you have to think about this aspect of home purchase!

[momthreekids]

I have driven in there and it is a ghost town. Also my very angry friend is not just angry to be angry. She isn't even effected by the high school. She will be an empty nester soon.

[fence]

momthreekids said:

I have driven in there and it is a ghost town. Also my very angry friend is not just angry to be angry. She isn't even effected by the high school. She will be an empty nester soon.

So angry because of the commercial zoning changes? I would have a heart attack. I thought they had to tell you about that stuff. What did they tell her was going in there? Doesn't sound right to me.

[momthreekids]

I was at the doctors office with my son, so we didn't get to talk long. They have a lot to be angry about.