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Post by steckdad on Mar 16, 2010 18:38:10 GMT -6
you said you are upset about your "child" having to deal with the events on friday. why else would you care other than to protect your child. tell me something. how is the WV more like the real world vs. NV? And then please tell me how it was detrimental to your high school student? exactly how. what are the long term and short term affects? lastly, you do not try to be nice on this board or green....actually you are quite nasty IMO Steckdad, what is your problem? Are you just contrary to everything posted on this board? I don't think warriordiva even posts on green. I also think you owe warriordiva an apology, particularly if you are a STECKdad. regarding posting on green, you are correct. I do owe her an apology. As far as the rest goes let me say this. This is a public forum. People post stuff here. some is true, some is false, some people fly off the handle and post emotionally instead of thinking things through. Some were "burned" and will look for any opportunity to point the finger at the school board. That is all fine and dandy, but it is everyone's right to respond weather they agree or disagree. I can ask a question to anyone at anytime. Not one of my posts has ever been a personal attack or offensive. |
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Post by steckdad on Mar 16, 2010 18:39:34 GMT -6
you said you are upset about your "child" having to deal with the events on friday. why else would you care other than to protect your child. tell me something. how is the WV more like the real world vs. NV? And then please tell me how it was detrimental to your high school student? exactly how. what are the long term and short term affects? lastly, you do not try to be nice on this board or green....actually you are quite nasty IMO You stayed up until 1:00 am to write this little nasty to diva? You are the pig, sir. way out of line with the pig comment lacy. too bad their isn't an unbiased moderator around to let you know so.... |
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Post by steckdad on Mar 16, 2010 18:41:18 GMT -6
If Steckdad really thinks this site is just a few malcontents and the rest of the district is thrilled with our SB and Admin, why does he spend so much time on here? part of the crowd control that would like to think so..place a few people to try and marginalize others - either in one line blogs- written word in papers etc..and it all goes away. Not this time...not this time attempts to marginalize are nothing new here-- whether it be SB candidates - current memebrs - now past but then current PTSA leaders - etc....many contributors here have included even past SB members - many former PTSA officers.. of course there are never any facts to the marginalization - but what I like to call 'nyah nyah' tactics. This time the economy will help spread the word as to what has been done here to make the situation even worse than it had to be..if this was performance for managers in the private sector, at best many of these people would be fired, at worst there'd be some serious investigations. as I said before I am not aligned with any of the groups mentioned above... |
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Post by steckdad on Mar 16, 2010 18:44:44 GMT -6
Thank you all for coming to my defense. I just want to say a couple of things then a certain jerk on this board will be invisible to me forever... -I have never posted anything on the green board. I think I have looked at it maybe 2 or 3 times total. I don't agree with what they say so I just stay away. -SD if you can't answer my simple question (do you have kids at WV?) then don't act like you know anything about WV. Talking trash to me will get you nowhere. -If you want to take my comments as "nasty" then you ought to go back and read some of your own. I need not justify to you why I feel that anything was detrimental to my kid. In fact, I feel quite sorry for yours if you feel that what my child experienced at WV last week was acceptable to ANYONE. I'm now done - you are invisible to me and hopefully soon you will be invisible to everyone else... I will answer your question if you answer one of mine rather than rant and rave....pick one...I will re post... how is the WV more like the real world vs. NV? please tell me how it was detrimental to your high school student? exactly how. what are the long term and short term affects? |
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Post by macrockett on Mar 16, 2010 19:35:53 GMT -6
Thank you all for coming to my defense. I just want to say a couple of things then a certain jerk on this board will be invisible to me forever... -I have never posted anything on the green board. I think I have looked at it maybe 2 or 3 times total. I don't agree with what they say so I just stay away. -SD if you can't answer my simple question (do you have kids at WV?) then don't act like you know anything about WV. Talking trash to me will get you nowhere. -If you want to take my comments as "nasty" then you ought to go back and read some of your own. I need not justify to you why I feel that anything was detrimental to my kid. In fact, I feel quite sorry for yours if you feel that what my child experienced at WV last week was acceptable to ANYONE. I'm now done - you are invisible to me and hopefully soon you will be invisible to everyone else... I will answer your question if you answer one of mine rather than rant and rave....pick one...I will re post... how is the WV more like the real world vs. NV? please tell me how it was detrimental to your high school student? exactly how. what are the long term and short term affects? What is this steckdad? Show and tell? |
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Post by EagleDad on Mar 16, 2010 20:06:58 GMT -6
I will answer your question if you answer one of mine rather than rant and rave....pick one...I will re post... OK, I will take you up on your offer if available to me as well. Do you have a Student currently at WVHS steckdad? If not do you have one that will be attending there in the next 2-3 years? Quid, pro quo pro steckdad, ask your inquiry to me in return. |
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Post by falcon on Mar 16, 2010 20:56:00 GMT -6
Steckdad, what is your problem? Are you just contrary to everything posted on this board? I don't think warriordiva even posts on green. I also think you owe warriordiva an apology, particularly if you are a STECKdad. regarding posting on green, you are correct. I do owe her an apology. As far as the rest goes let me say this. This is a public forum. People post stuff here. some is true, some is false, some people fly off the handle and post emotionally instead of thinking things through. Some were "burned" and will look for any opportunity to point the finger at the school board. That is all fine and dandy, but it is everyone's right to respond weather they agree or disagree. I can ask a question to anyone at anytime. Not one of my posts has ever been a personal attack or offensive. Last time I checked, calling someone nasty was a personal attack. Sure you have the right, thanks to the mods, to post on this board all you want. But it would be nice if you offered anything besides criticism of other people's opinions. I might be new, but I've read for a while and you rarely even post your OWN opinion and certainly not until someone else posts their's first. And I don't think you've ever once posted anything close to a fact. Where do you stand on the budget cuts? What should go? What about music? What about ADK? I can tell you that I prefer any cuts before cuts to any academic curriculum or special needs. I have a child in music and no special needs, but I believe academics is what will make or break our district in the long run. Now that my opinion has been voiced, you should be able to criticize me and tell me what you think.  Also, why do you refuse to consider that there may be differences between the high schools when people who have kids in the high schools and even the board and those working for the district have admitted to differences? Or the possibility that WV may close? Why as a Steck parent (and thus future WV parent) would you not think these issues are worth exploring? |
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Post by lacy on Mar 16, 2010 21:30:47 GMT -6
You stayed up until 1:00 am to write this little nasty to diva? You are the pig, sir. way out of line with the pig comment lacy. too bad their isn't an unbiased moderator around to let you know so.... oink. oink. |
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 16, 2010 22:09:54 GMT -6
regarding posting on green, you are correct. I do owe her an apology. As far as the rest goes let me say this. This is a public forum. People post stuff here. some is true, some is false, some people fly off the handle and post emotionally instead of thinking things through. Some were "burned" and will look for any opportunity to point the finger at the school board. That is all fine and dandy, but it is everyone's right to respond weather they agree or disagree. I can ask a question to anyone at anytime. Not one of my posts has ever been a personal attack or offensive. Last time I checked, calling someone nasty was a personal attack. Sure you have the right, thanks to the mods, to post on this board all you want. But it would be nice if you offered anything besides criticism of other people's opinions. I might be new, but I've read for a while and you rarely even post your OWN opinion and certainly not until someone else posts their's first. And I don't think you've ever once posted anything close to a fact. Where do you stand on the budget cuts? What should go? What about music? What about ADK? I can tell you that I prefer any cuts before cuts to any academic curriculum or special needs. I have a child in music and no special needs, but I believe academics is what will make or break our district in the long run. Now that my opinion has been voiced, you should be able to criticize me and tell me what you think. Also, why do you refuse to consider that there may be differences between the high schools when people who have kids in the high schools and even the board and those working for the district have admitted to differences? Or the possibility that WV may close? Why as a Steck parent (and thus future WV parent) would you not think these issues are worth exploring? people area allowed to not have to stick to a party line script here. We don't change words for things like 'long commute' just because we may not agree with it, or get hounded by mods to keep on topic, even when they bring up a topic and you are commenting on it- but including things some of them ( not all) want to hear. One needs to hear all opinions to help better understand what is going on. |
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Post by macrockett on Mar 16, 2010 22:12:05 GMT -6
regarding posting on green, you are correct. I do owe her an apology. As far as the rest goes let me say this. This is a public forum. People post stuff here. some is true, some is false, some people fly off the handle and post emotionally instead of thinking things through. Some were "burned" and will look for any opportunity to point the finger at the school board. That is all fine and dandy, but it is everyone's right to respond weather they agree or disagree. I can ask a question to anyone at anytime. Not one of my posts has ever been a personal attack or offensive. Last time I checked, calling someone nasty was a personal attack. Sure you have the right, thanks to the mods, to post on this board all you want. But it would be nice if you offered anything besides criticism of other people's opinions. I might be new, but I've read for a while and you rarely even post your OWN opinion and certainly not until someone else posts their's first. And I don't think you've ever once posted anything close to a fact. Where do you stand on the budget cuts? What should go? What about music? What about ADK? I can tell you that I prefer any cuts before cuts to any academic curriculum or special needs. I have a child in music and no special needs, but I believe academics is what will make or break our district in the long run. Now that my opinion has been voiced, you should be able to criticize me and tell me what you think. Also, why do you refuse to consider that there may be differences between the high schools when people who have kids in the high schools and even the board and those working for the district have admitted to differences? Or the possibility that WV may close? Why as a Steck parent (and thus future WV parent) would you not think these issues are worth exploring? Welcome to the world of FUD Falcon, and steckdad is up to his neck in it. Steckdad would like you to believe that he is just another concerned parent, but steckdad is well connected to the powers of 204 so he has a full time job in here casting doubt, attempting to discredit those who disagree with District policy, procedure and administration. Saying the same things over and over, hoping they will stick. You will find steckdad is a master of contradiction. For example, he fights for the right of the District to post a sign telling the State they owe us money (even though the State can legally do so), yet he doesn't question his own District's back door referendum of $17 million (that no one was allowed to vote on yet we are all paying for) to provide the funding gap for MVHS (because it is legal). Once when I stated the Board failed in its responsibility of due diligence by not seeking outside professionals to assist in determining our capacity needs and how best to satisfy them (re whether to build a HS (a $124 million and counting project) or add to existing facilities (as a majority wanted) he responded: (paraphrase) "we have perfectly capable people in house to handle that..." Yet it is ok to seek outside assistance for a survey (cost $17.5k), a bus contract ($60k as I recall for a contract worth a fraction of the value of building a HS), and several other issues, but I think you understand my point. Steckdad sees the District from the view of the connected. So you won't get too much out of him Falcon, he needs to protect his identity. |
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Post by doctorwho on Mar 16, 2010 22:14:57 GMT -6
You stayed up until 1:00 am to write this little nasty to diva? You are the pig, sir. way out of line with the pig comment lacy. too bad their isn't an unbiased moderator around to let you know so.... maybe we can put filters in that change peoples written words for things as mundane as ' long commute' -- would that be unbiased ? Censorship can be also dangerous --- and the mods here have also taken some shots from you that would have gotten you banned elsewhere..or slapped on the wrist real hard. Within reason we try and let people work things out - hopefully you're not affected by that - short term- long term etc. One has to be resilient like we're asking the students to be...  |
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Post by Arch on Mar 17, 2010 5:17:24 GMT -6
You stayed up until 1:00 am to write this little nasty to diva? You are the pig, sir. way out of line with the pig comment lacy. too bad their isn't an unbiased moderator around to let you know so.... There is no such thing as an unbiased person. We're all adults here. If you can't deal with that and need a babysitter to shield you from someone else's reality, then don't come here. |
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Post by blankcheck on Mar 17, 2010 9:25:34 GMT -6
As I was watching the news last night as they were showing the teachers holding signs etc. a thought came to me. Did we not hear several weeks ago from our Super. that the govenor held a meeting with all superintendents from all over the state. She came back and reported that the news was bad, but did not elaborate.
Over the course of the last few weeks, we have all heard the govenor and his budget cuts and then like dominos one by one each school district began the process of layoffs. IMO-they all knew this was coming.
What better way to get the voters attention then to start cutting programs. IMO-they are all in this together. We are all being played yet again. The govenor states huge cuts in education - everyone is up in arms. Each local school district starts their cuts - everyone is up in arms. They are once again playing on the educational emotions of the voters to get their way and shore up their pension plan.
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Post by steckdad on Mar 17, 2010 21:00:58 GMT -6
I will answer your question if you answer one of mine rather than rant and rave....pick one...I will re post... OK, I will take you up on your offer if available to me as well. Do you have a Student currently at WVHS steckdad? If not do you have one that will be attending there in the next 2-3 years? Quid, pro quo pro steckdad, ask your inquiry to me in return. I am not sure if I have a question for you ED...Your posts are usually level headed and well thought out. I may not always agree with them but that is a different story. My wife went to WV...I have friends that went to WV....I have had students of WV work for me while they attended and alumni as well. I Have friends with kids in WV now or will be soon. My sitter goes to WV. I think that might give me some insight from 1989 till about now don't you think? But to answer your question...no |
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Post by steckdad on Mar 17, 2010 21:11:59 GMT -6
regarding posting on green, you are correct. I do owe her an apology. As far as the rest goes let me say this. This is a public forum. People post stuff here. some is true, some is false, some people fly off the handle and post emotionally instead of thinking things through. Some were "burned" and will look for any opportunity to point the finger at the school board. That is all fine and dandy, but it is everyone's right to respond weather they agree or disagree. I can ask a question to anyone at anytime. Not one of my posts has ever been a personal attack or offensive. Last time I checked, calling someone nasty was a personal attack. Sure you have the right, thanks to the mods, to post on this board all you want. But it would be nice if you offered anything besides criticism of other people's opinions. I might be new, but I've read for a while and you rarely even post your OWN opinion and certainly not until someone else posts their's first. And I don't think you've ever once posted anything close to a fact. Where do you stand on the budget cuts? What should go? What about music? What about ADK? I can tell you that I prefer any cuts before cuts to any academic curriculum or special needs. I have a child in music and no special needs, but I believe academics is what will make or break our district in the long run. Now that my opinion has been voiced, you should be able to criticize me and tell me what you think. Also, why do you refuse to consider that there may be differences between the high schools when people who have kids in the high schools and even the board and those working for the district have admitted to differences? Or the possibility that WV may close? Why as a Steck parent (and thus future WV parent) would you not think these issues are worth exploring? we are going to disagree on the personal attack part falcon, but I will engage you on your questions. ADK gone and Pay to play sports if I have to cut. Looks like we don't have a situation where the teachers will take a pay cut unfortunately because that would fix a lot. Special needs programs is a draw for 204 and the reason my neighbor moved here from the northwest suburbs. There are differences between the schools. Do I think WV is getting screwed? no. |
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