D204 to reveal proposed Metea boundaries - Part 2

[sleeplessinnpvl]

brad204 said:

sleeplessinnpvl said:

The question I have is whether Owen and the area south of 103rd and east of 248th and west of Rt 59 can all fit into NV.

Yup, sleepless that was the only point I was trying to make.

Yes, I think a cleaner border w/less crowding in Neuqua means these folks move with their Petersen friends. I admit, if this proposal were to be submitted by the board on Feb. 12, very few can argue with the clean borders that any politics was going on.

[gatordog]

brad204 said:

I never understood how it happened before (honestly look at those old-new 2009 boundaries), but now I get it. When the last set of boundaries were created Wheatland was still open. And these boundaries were probably created to help people get over it's closing. It's now gone. And so are those boundaries. With exception of small number of people across 59 I think it's safe to say we are one big family

very good point here.

I gotta say....one big reason why I have been very "liberal and willing" to split Peterson as needed is, honestly, because there is a line in my spreadsheet for Old Wheatland. As you say, it was around last time, therefore, I had it as separate line. I also thought of it as fair "neighborhood divison", older area as opposed to new area. Is that legitimate discription of these areas (i dont know for sure myself)?

So In my model, splitting Peterson just was easy to do....nothing personal! I guess the old neighbor vs new was my rational there. Seriously, I think Peterson community needs to come together on what they want.

In my mind, as you say, the NV walker east of 59, should stay at WV. But how to split- or not split up- the rest? What do growth models allow for?

[plainfield204]

gatordog:

Old Wheatland included the newer Century Trace Subdivision which is West of 59.

First time they tried to close Wheatland there was a big outcry and they backed off. Next time I heard about it it was a done deal.

My feeling is "as Peterson goes, we go", at least for Century Trace. As far as other areas going to Old Wheatland, who knows.

Never could find out how much room there will be for Old Wheatland students once Ashwood is built out - any one have any idea?

[justvote]

I can see only one really good reason to split Peterson - those students east of Rte. 59 who can see NV out their windows. My feeling is that the area directly next NV that feeds into Peterson should be reassigned to an ES east of Rte. 59, and Peterson should go, as a unit, with Fry and WE (wherever assigned but assuming WV).

[concerned]

These boundaries split Peterson at the ES, MS, and HS. IMO way too many splits for one school. Also the Dash mentioned not splitting ES. Wheatland no longer exists and Peterson needs to be thought of as one school.

[bob]

justvote said:

I can see only one really good reason to split Peterson - those students east of Rte. 59 who can see NV out their windows. My feeling is that the area directly next NV that feeds into Peterson should be reassigned to an ES east of Rte. 59, and Peterson should go, as a unit, with Fry and WE (wherever assigned but assuming WV).

Completely see that happening.

[gatordog]

plainfield204 said:

gatordog:
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My feeling is "as Peterson goes, we go", at least for Century Trace. As far as other areas going to Old Wheatland, who knows.

Never could find out how much room there will be for Old Wheatland students once Ashwood is built out - any one have any idea?

pf204, thanks for neighborhood info. I did not know that.

Your question on room for Old Wheatland. Are you talking room at Peterson ES?

Last boundaries had full growth WHEATLAND at 350 ES students, and PETERSON at 600 ES students. That implies SD is expecting/planning for 950 ES students here. (Compare this to current PETERSON enroll of 444). I assume they will fit at PET since they made the decision to close WHEATLAND.

[gatordog]

bob said:

justvote said:

I can see only one really good reason to split Peterson - those students east of Rte. 59 who can see NV out their windows. My feeling is that the area directly next NV that feeds into Peterson should be reassigned to an ES east of Rte. 59, and Peterson should go, as a unit, with Fry and WE (wherever assigned but assuming WV).

Completely see that happening.

concerned, justvote, pf204, bob, brad (hopefully others reading).....

I think we see some consensus building here, my friends

[gatordog]

Concerning the entire (W of 59) old Wheatland "promise" of staying at NV. I think that made sense when alternative HS to make room for them at NV was sited at BB. I think the situation has changed now that alternative site is over at WV.

EDIT: I think same argument holds for old Wheatland concering ES and MS locations being nicely place. I think this applies to them, just as it does for Ashwood and Fry/Tall Grass.

[plainfield204]

gatordog:
Yes, talking about room at Peterson.

Never could get an answer on if there was enuff room for Wheatland and Ashwood at Peterson.

I think that closing Wheatland was an attempt to save face. Don't think they wanted Peterson sitting empty for another year...

[gatordog]

plainfield204 said:

gatordog:
Yes, talking about room at Peterson.

Never could get an answer on if there was enuff room for Wheatland and Ashwood at Peterson.

I think that closing Wheatland was an attempt to save face. Don't think they wanted Peterson sitting empty for another year...

I was thinking maybe they are also saying, "growth will really be less.....we are planning for future Peterson enrollment of x (something < 950)".

I would love to know value of x. That may be good quest for SB/Admin. I think I will ask.

EDIT: This has important implications at WV for Steck/Mcc/Cowl/Watts/etc/etc !

[bob]

plainfield204 said:

gatordog:
Yes, talking about room at Peterson.

Never could get an answer on if there was enuff room for Wheatland and Ashwood at Peterson.

I think that closing Wheatland was an attempt to save face. Don't think they wanted Peterson sitting empty for another year...

I think they closed Wheatland because Ashwood was beginning to bring in more students. Before Peterson, I think Ashwood bussed there kids to 2-3 different grade schools

Students in the system
Ashwood 142
Century Trace has 221


Oops that includes HS. MS and GS

Ashwood 88 GS
CT 121 GS

[plainfield204]

bob:

Century Trace total does not include Century Trace Lots 1 -99, unless the Subdivision Spreadsheet is in error and it is included in one of the 2 lines for Century Trace.

Have put note in Spreadsheet thread...

[bob]

There's a spreadsheet thread?

Found it.

[pof2]

I think with the new boundaries being decided, old wheatland needs to come off the spreadsheet. Old Wheatland, east of 59 should be reassigned to a new ES....all old Wheatland, west of 59, should become part of Peterson and go where Peterson goes....Century Trace is right next to Ashwood Creek, west of 248th...so anything west of 59 at Peterson would be one big happy family.

There is a new subdivision supposed to open, Manadaly Club, behind Tall Grass. I think they are supposed to feed into Peterson as well (just an fyi)