Geography guides Dist. 204 boundaries

[Arch]

bob said:

archwinsome said:

Did you include the non-walkers of Steck and McCarty? (Walkers of course staying at WV).

Arch, I am just using non-split grade schools. I am sure you could split that area into pieces and get MW and Colishaw. The thing is the announcement says nothing about new middle school or grade school boundaries.

The splits for MW and COWL are silly when there are plenty closer ES around their area.

[bob]

archwinsome said:

bob said:

Arch, I am just using non-split grade schools. I am sure you could split that area into pieces and get MW and Colishaw. The thing is the announcement says nothing about new middle school or grade school boundaries.

The splits for MW and COWL are silly when there are plenty closer ES around their area.

Totally agree. I hope they do clean up the boundaries in that area. The lack of grade school and middle school boundary announcement doesn't give me hope.

[Arch]

bob said:

archwinsome said:

The splits for MW and COWL are silly when there are plenty closer ES around their area.

Totally agree. I hope they do clean up the boundaries in that area. The lack of grade school and middle school boundary announcement doesn't give me hope.

So, what I posted actually helps to set the stage for that necessary cleanup whether it happens now or later...

[doctorwho]

bob said:

archwinsome said:

Did you include the non-walkers of Steck and McCarty? (Walkers of course staying at WV).

Arch, I am just using non-split grade schools. I am sure you could split that area into pieces and get MW and Colishaw inot NV and WV.

MW is going to be a huge anchor for test scores at MV. Just like WE and Fry are going to be at WV. I am not really happy about this logic but someone has an axe to grind about this.


The thing is the announcement says nothing about new middle school or grade school boundaries.

great - so we are an academic anchor for Hill and MV - yet we are not wealthy enough ( as we round about were told at WVHS orientation night) to equal off WV and NV money wise so we get thrown out of there. Those are 'great' reasons to ship us to the far end of the district. Unbelievable.

[bob]

yet we are not wealthy enough ( as we round about were told at WVHS orientation night) to equal off WV and NV money wise so we get thrown out of there. Those are 'great' reasons to ship us to the far end of the district. Unbelievable

What? What was said, because that is digusting?

[doctorwho]

bob said:

yet we are not wealthy enough ( as we round about were told at WVHS orientation night) to equal off WV and NV money wise so we get thrown out of there. Those are 'great' reasons to ship us to the far end of the district. Unbelievable

What? What was said, because that is digusting?

as I sat there with 8 other parents-kids from Watts - the head of the booster club told us about how they raised $60K last year and opened a new weight room, BUT, the new boundaries would likely allow WVHS to better compete equipment wise etc. with the Neuqua's of the world.
How would you take that comment ?

for those of us leaving - those replacing us can raise more money. Nice huh ?

[jwh]

doctorwho said:

bob said:

Arch, I am just using non-split grade schools. I am sure you could split that area into pieces and get MW and Colishaw inot NV and WV.

MW is going to be a huge anchor for test scores at MV. Just like WE and Fry are going to be at WV. I am not really happy about this logic but someone has an axe to grind about this.


The thing is the announcement says nothing about new middle school or grade school boundaries.

great - so we are an academic anchor for Hill and MV - yet we are not wealthy enough ( as we round about were told at WVHS orientation night) to equal off WV and NV money wise so we get thrown out of there. Those are 'great' reasons to ship us to the far end of the district. Unbelievable.

Sounds like the same type of reasoning last time around that Brookdale was segregated from the rest of Hill.

[anteater]

doctorwho said:

as I sat there with 8 other parents-kids from Watts - the head of the booster club told us about how they raised $60K last year and opened a new weight room, BUT, the new boundaries would likely allow WVHS to better compete equipment wise etc. with the Neuqua's of the world.
How would you take that comment ?

for those of us leaving - those replacing us can raise more money. Nice huh ?

I would take it exactly as you did. However, athletic boosters (aka "athletic supporters") aren't always good at seeing the big picture.

[doctorwho]

anteater said:

doctorwho said:

as I sat there with 8 other parents-kids from Watts - the head of the booster club told us about how they raised $60K last year and opened a new weight room, BUT, the new boundaries would likely allow WVHS to better compete equipment wise etc. with the Neuqua's of the world.
How would you take that comment ?

for those of us leaving - those replacing us can raise more money. Nice huh ?

I would take it exactly as you did. However, athletic boosters (aka "athletic supporters") aren't always good at seeing the big picture.

Then why be allowed to address 500 - 1000 people representing the school? I don't blame him at all- as I think he actually spoke honestly. Unfortunately I think he spoke exactly what the reasoning behind the 'new Waubonsie' is. It is not test scores - as WVHS will be the 3rd scoring school with the boundaries as anticipated. And it's not geography or else Peterson woud not be assigned there.

[casey]

gatormom said:

Your overall clusters in the north would attend Metea (Valley,) the majority of clusters in the center would go to Waubonsie (Valley) and a majority in the southern end would attend Neuqua (Valley)," Metzger said. "Obviously that won't work in every single scenario because some clusters overlap, but that's how a majority of the students will decide which school they will attend.

Key word "MAJORITY". IMO it will be the majority of south 95th just not PET or FRY. How in the world can a student living all the way down by 103rd not be considered "southern"? If the SB is using the terminology of northern, central, and southern then make the boundaries reflect that! MW shouldn't be considered North and FRY shouldn't be considered Central. I know boundaries haven't come out but that's what I'm expecting to see and it's just wrong, wrong, wrong!

Use a true geographical line and don't gerrymander the lines to work. This isn't Chicago wards we're talking about!

[bob]

Maybe they should have used

Southeastern, Northeastern, Southwestern ;D

[doctorwho]

casey said:

gatormom said:

Your overall clusters in the north would attend Metea (Valley,) the majority of clusters in the center would go to Waubonsie (Valley) and a majority in the southern end would attend Neuqua (Valley)," Metzger said. "Obviously that won't work in every single scenario because some clusters overlap, but that's how a majority of the students will decide which school they will attend.

Key word "MAJORITY". IMO it will be the majority of south 95th just not PET or FRY. How in the world can a student living all the way down by 103rd not be considered "southern"? If the SB is using the terminology of northern, central, and southern then make the boundaries reflect that! MW shouldn't be considered North and FRY shouldn't be considered Central. I know boundaries haven't come out but that's what I'm expecting to see and it's just wrong, wrong, wrong!

Use a true geographical line and don't gerrymander the lines to work. This isn't Chicago wards we're talking about!

I worked for a Chicago ward boss / alderman for a few years when I was younger -- this would be a stretch even for them

[bob]

They should have used area A B & C and not used directions.

[confused]

doctorwho said:

bob said:

Arch, I am just using non-split grade schools. I am sure you could split that area into pieces and get MW and Colishaw inot NV and WV.

MW is going to be a huge anchor for test scores at MV. Just like WE and Fry are going to be at WV. I am not really happy about this logic but someone has an axe to grind about this.


The thing is the announcement says nothing about new middle school or grade school boundaries.

great - so we are an academic anchor for Hill and MV - yet we are not wealthy enough ( as we round about were told at WVHS orientation night) to equal off WV and NV money wise so we get thrown out of there. Those are 'great' reasons to ship us to the far end of the district. Unbelievable.

The announcement also said nothing about academic balance. So that doesn't necessariy mean anyone will be the academic "anchor" anywhere. The article was very generic though and I'm certain left a lot out.

It doesn't even make sense what they said about minimal splits at the middle school - not more than one. What does that mean? How could you split from your middle school twice? Wondering if that was a typo.

Geography and Logic...I think that might be in the eye of the beholder...

[bob]

It doesn't even make sense what they said about minimal splits at the middle school - not more than one. What does that mean? How could you split from your middle school twice? Wondering if that was a typo.

I think it was that if you are split at grade school then you wouldn't get split at MS, and vice versa.