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Post by bob on Feb 12, 2008 12:42:30 GMT -6
How does Fry get screwed?
You have a GS and MS in you neighborhood. You claim "island" when half the kids at Scullen will be from Fry.
You were going to BB and now switched to WV.
The city of Naperville said the bridge is not a safe route.
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Post by casey on Feb 12, 2008 12:43:54 GMT -6
Split MS at Scullen (NV/WV) and Still (WV/MV). Scullen has ~50/50 split, ) Curious how you determined that? The way I see it, FRY gets completely split at Scullen. Scullen is Welch, Fry, and part of Peterson (Tamarack). Fry is the only one headed to WV. How is that a 50-50 split? Scullen is a feeder to NV but FRY gets pulled out of the mix. Please tell me how this makes sense? Again, this whole mess is completely due to the boneheaded move by our SB to buy MWGEN location. This is pathetic!
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Post by wolverine on Feb 12, 2008 12:44:52 GMT -6
Another thought - I suspect Laidlaw is very happy with this proposal. However, I doubt either they or the admin looked at this as an opportunity to reduce transportation times, which clearly should occur when you add a school.
That appoach could potentially have cut their business, and wouldn't support the admin's decision.
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Post by oldmanpotter on Feb 12, 2008 12:46:01 GMT -6
again Casey I am in complete agreement with you. All you have to say is I am from TG and they tune you out. We are stereo typed per the SB, this way it is so easy for them to stick it to us. All west of 59 should be going to WV. Unfortunately TG has a credibility problem. But, in this area--the wild randomness of the boundaries--everyone seems to be potentially an equal opportunity screwee. Tall Grass always had a bulls eye on it ever since the last boundry talks. I think there have been people that have wanted to give TG a good screwing. And Ashwood as well.
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Post by bob on Feb 12, 2008 12:47:01 GMT -6
Tamarack only proivdes about 30-40 student in MS.
TG alone is about 360 Stillwater about 140
WVparent has a spreadsheet breaking down all the subdivisions.
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Post by bob on Feb 12, 2008 12:50:06 GMT -6
Unfortunately TG has a credibility problem. But, in this area--the wild randomness of the boundaries--everyone seems to be potentially an equal opportunity screwee. Tall Grass always had a bulls eye on it ever since the last boundry talks. I think there have been people that have wanted to give TG a good screwing. And Ashwood as well. Good screwing how? They were suppose to go to BB MV but now go to WV. The city of Naperville said the bridge is not a safe route.
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Post by Arch on Feb 12, 2008 12:50:21 GMT -6
Unfortunately TG has a credibility problem. But, in this area--the wild randomness of the boundaries--everyone seems to be potentially an equal opportunity screwee. Tall Grass always had a bulls eye on it ever since the last boundry talks. I think there have been people that have wanted to give TG a good screwing. And Ashwood as well. That much was obvious from watching the Jan 22 board meeting and listening to not only members of the public but also a SB member.
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Post by steckmom on Feb 12, 2008 12:54:36 GMT -6
Owen East to NV West to WV If you did this then you have too many at WV and NV and not enough at MV. It is unfortunate and I definately don't have the answer. ... I agree. I would like to see a better fit for Owen East, but I am not sure of the solution. Otherwise I think it is an OK proposal, although I understand the other concerns. Northern parts of Mcc and/or Steck would have to be assigned to MV. I actually think those area would be a good fit at MV. Comments from these areas would be welcomed. Okay, I've been hesitant to post because I personally got what I wanted. I'm in Oakhurst and among the closest homes to Steck. It's a 10 min. walk to WV, but you have to go through the park and go over the bridge. The boundaries give us closest MS, closest HS, no splits. The boundaries are unfair. I think we established between me and another poster that many from Steck would be willing to head up to MV. ( As I've said before though, I do not speak for Steck!) I really don't want to see that happen, but it certainly would benefit the district overall, and I would live with it. Also, I'd rather stay at Granger and would be willing to compromise there. BTW, 29 minutes to WV from Steck vs. some of the other commutes makes no sense.
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Post by gatordog on Feb 12, 2008 12:54:40 GMT -6
Split MS at Scullen (NV/WV) and Still (WV/MV). Scullen has ~50/50 split, ) Curious how you determined that? The way I see it, FRY gets completely split at Scullen. Scullen is Welch, Fry, and part of Peterson (Tamarack). Fry is the only one headed to WV. How is that a 50-50 split? ! here is my estimated Scullen make up in terms of MS enrollment: Fry-450 Welch-430 Peter-60 thats about 50/50 split.
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Post by researching on Feb 12, 2008 12:58:53 GMT -6
How does Fry get screwed? You have a GS and MS in you neighborhood. You claim "island" when half the kids at Scullen will be from Fry. You were going to BB and now switched to WV. The city of Naperville said the bridge is not a safe route. Interesting you say that Bob. Of course you would given that it was probably one of your neighbors who "researched" this for the district. Just an FYI for all of my Fry friends. The person who conducted the "research" regarding the pedestrian bridge is no expert that is for sure and in fact is the Director of "Support Services" (former Director of the lunch line), Karla Zozulia. Ms. Zozulia lives in the Welch attendance area (Stillwater subdivision on the North side of 87th St.). How obnoxious and biased is that! I am so furious! This is old school politics as usual.
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Post by momof156graders on Feb 12, 2008 13:01:01 GMT -6
The city of Naperville said the bridge is not a safe route. ? Why was it built then? How is crossing 95th street safer than walking a bike path then walking over a bridge? IDOT built the bridge, and is leaving it up to the school board to determineed if it is a safe route. They determine whatever they want to make their propsal work. Do they actually make money on being "reimbursed to bus" Fry instead of having them walkers to NVHS? Peterson which is south of Fry is listed as having a shorter bus trip - how is that?
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Post by bob on Feb 12, 2008 13:01:02 GMT -6
City of Naperville – the bridge will not be maintained by the city, and will not become part of a “safe walk route” to school. Naperville Park District – The Naperville Park District will assume the operational maintenance which includes snow removal. The Park District divides its snow removal operations into two categories, priority and secondary. Priority routes include parking lots and sidewalks adjacent to Park District buildings. The new bridge will be placed on a secondary route, this means during heavier snow events it may not be cleared until one or two days after the end of the snowfall. Illinois Department of Transportation – IDOT will not address the issues regarding the pedestrian bridge, this is up to the City of Naperville and the local school board.
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Post by gatordog on Feb 12, 2008 13:02:06 GMT -6
Okay, I've been hesitant to post because I personally got what I wanted. I'm in Oakhurst and among the closest homes to Steck. It's a 10 min. walk to WV, but you have to go through the park and go over the bridge. The boundaries give us closest MS, closest HS, no splits. The boundaries are unfair. I think we established between me and another poster that many from Steck would be willing to head up to MV. ( As I've said before though, I do not speak for Steck!) I really don't want to see that happen, but it certainly would benefit the district overall, and I would live with it. Also, I'd rather stay at Granger and would be willing to compromise there. BTW, 29 minutes to WV from Steck vs. some of the other commutes makes no sense. steckmom, no need to be hesistant...thats a very good post I think if I lived up your way, and I will incl parts of Mcc too, WV would also be my first choice. But then a MV assignement wouldnt be a bad deal either. (I would make the Gombert to BB MV analogy here) Concerning the bus times, the closer areas to a HS like Gombert and Steck seem to have more stops, so their routes end up being about same time wise, even though its less time travelling on road. This holds true for bus schedules now, I think
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Post by bob on Feb 12, 2008 13:03:54 GMT -6
The city of Naperville said the bridge is not a safe route. ?
Not a safe walk route to school. Big difference
Why was it built then? How is crossing 95th street safer than walking a bike path then walking over a bridge?
For a bike route.
The SD has precedent in a bike path bridge not being a safe walk route to school. See the area South of McCoy east of Eola and north of the creek. Within 1.5 miles of WV connected by a bike path and bridge but still is bussed to WV.
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Post by ogden on Feb 12, 2008 13:07:12 GMT -6
How does Fry get screwed? You have a GS and MS in you neighborhood. You claim "island" when half the kids at Scullen will be from Fry. You were going to BB and now switched to WV. The city of Naperville said the bridge is not a safe route. I agree with Bob.
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