EOLA FAILS = SPLIT SHIFTS, Trailers

[MustangSix]

I just talked to an 'Admin insider' about the hoopla over Midwest Gen getting bombarded with negativity from NSFOC site.

I asked 'what if" this site falls apart. She ... hesitated .. and said, "do you not know that Admin is working on a split shift schedule to start with NVHS?" She said obviously TG and/or WE still have to come out of NVHS and placed in WVHS.

I guess Plano or Plainfield just put one high school on split shifts and left the other one alone. I don't have those details.

She said they are also looking into the costs of trailers for NVHS.

I'm trying to just figure out how I feel about this...

Ok, I guess. If that's what we have to do. I guess that's what NSFOC wants - split shifts and trailers.

Hmmm... I would rather have a 3rd high school.... but oh well. I'll deal with it. And I WON'T be filing any lawsuits. Novel idea, huh? ;D

[susan]

Nice try. Where do you get your ridiculous information from? I wonder if it was the same administrator who put our the bridge memo. Their credibility was lost with me when that was circulated.

[doctorwho]

mustangsix said:

I just talked to an 'Admin insider' about the hoopla over Midwest Gen getting bombarded with negativity from NSFOC site.

I asked 'what if" this site falls apart. She ... hesitated .. and said, "do you not know that Admin is working on a split shift schedule to start with NVHS?" She said obviously TG and/or WE still have to come out of NVHS and placed in WVHS.

I guess Plano or Plainfield just put one high school on split shifts and left the other one alone. I don't have those details.

She said they are also looking into the costs of trailers for NVHS.

I'm trying to just figure out how I feel about this...

Ok, I guess. If that's what we have to do. I guess that's what NSFOC wants - split shifts and trailers.

Hmmm... I would rather have a 3rd high school.... but oh well. I'll deal with it. And I WON'T be filing any lawsuits. Novel idea, huh? ;D

This worked the first time -I remember I helped sell it as did many people who aren't going to buy it this time around,
fool me once.....

First time it was what CFO wanted - now the mantra will be what NSFOC wants.

to quote Roger Daltry - "We Won't Get foooled again"

Show me where in either of the next two years WVHS for instance will have more students than it did prior to NVHS opening. I believe the graduating class one of those years was over 1300. My oldest lived through that crowding - it was not pleasant, but she got a great education anyway.

and AMAZINGLY no one talked about split shifts -- why is that?

This time no one with a calculator is going to buy this...maybe it's time to hire another PR firm to help

and yes I would take split shifts ( and I do not think that is going to happen at all )rather than send my child to the AME- MWGEN site.
But I DO believe we need a 3rd high school.

Different quandry this time around -- the audience that has to be scared is better educated in the facts.


So let me see I can accept split shifts at a high school that I know is safe - and is 1/3 the time distance from my home, and has a gym - and auditorium - no area being remidiated - and varsity sports. --- versus a sight that incrementally increases the health and safety risks, will open as a shell of a school , make sure we stay away from 17 acres , have no gym or pool at least at opening, be under construction at opening, no sports facilities or varsity teams and triple my areas bus time on a daily basis. Not to mention has costs that we cannot for certain even identify today still to be litigated.

No problem - have your Admin just give the issue to Laidlaw and their supercomputer will spit out a schedule that works like clockwork.

You forgot the part on how it will lower our property values - I still have a copy of one of those Freelance presentations we used to pitch all that... however now it gets trumped by having to send my areas kids to a site that will always have a cloud over it's head - halfway across the region from my area.

Will need to find a better scare tactic today. Sorry, not buying it for a second

[MustangSix]

What Bridge memo?

[MustangSix]

So you think I can sleep tonight and not be concerned?

[proschool]

mustangsix said:

I just talked to an 'Admin insider' about the hoopla over Midwest Gen getting bombarded with negativity from NSFOC site.

I asked 'what if" this site falls apart. She ... hesitated .. and said, "do you not know that Admin is working on a split shift schedule to start with NVHS?" She said obviously TG and/or WE still have to come out of NVHS and placed in WVHS.

I guess Plano or Plainfield just put one high school on split shifts and left the other one alone. I don't have those details.

She said they are also looking into the costs of trailers for NVHS.

I'm trying to just figure out how I feel about this...

Ok, I guess. If that's what we have to do. I guess that's what NSFOC wants - split shifts and trailers.

Hmmm... I would rather have a 3rd high school.... but oh well. I'll deal with it. And I WON'T be filing any lawsuits. Novel idea, huh? ;D

Split shifts ot safety? let me think about that.

Okay. I choose safety.

[sleeplessinnpvl]

Of course you guys are doubtful. After all, this means the SB actually has a Plan B, doesn't it? Hard to believe.

Why would the SB use this as a scare tactic? They don't need votes. At least they are considering their options. Whether you believe this is true or not, at least it makes me feel better that they are considering a Plan B.

[researching]

mustangsix said:

So you think I can sleep tonight and not be concerned?

I can't speak for you but I will be sleeping like a baby. The SB said the same when they wanted to pass the referendum. I have long ago accepted the fact the this SB and admin. do not operate on facts, logic and statistics. They operate on gossip, spite and perception (no facts needed). At this point, NOTHING they do will surprise me. Oh, I take that back, if they actually did the RIGHT thing, now that would surprise me.

The fact that you have to ask "what bridge memo?" says a lot about your knowledge of the happenings in this district. If the lightbulb was just turning on for me, I guess I wouldn't be able to sleep either.

ETA - I have an "admin. insider" too. So far they have been wrong about a lot.

[researching]

sleeplessinnpvl said:

Of course you guys are doubtful. After all, this means the SB actually has a Plan B, doesn't it? Hard to believe.

Why would the SB use this as a scare tactic? They don't need votes. At least they are considering their options. Whether you believe this is true or not, at least it makes me feel better that they are considering a Plan B.

I vote for safety too. Split shifts would be a small price to pay IMO.

[susan]

I am referring to the bridge memo that went out with the administrators boundary recommendations. Everything that was written was later found to be false, which the administration admitted and took off their web site. The park district also stated that the part pertaining to them was also false. To top everything off the administrator who wrote the memo lives in the Welch community. How convenient. So, you see I do not have a lot of trust or respect for some of the administrators. Also, I am in 100% agreement with Doctorwho's post above. Could not have stated it better.

[Avenging Eagle]

susan said:

I am referring to the bridge memo that went out with the administrators boundary recommendations. Everything that was written was later found to be false, which the administration admitted and took off their web site. The park district also stated that the part pertaining to them was also false. To top everything off the administrator who wrote the memo lives in the Welch community. How convenient. So, you see I do not have a lot of trust or respect for some of the administrators. Also, I am in 100% agreement with Doctorwho's post above. Could not have stated it better.

Just read the thread title.

Eola has failed? It is about time our SB came to their senses.

[WeBe204]

GatorDog already did this analysis about two weeks ago on the other proboard. He came to the same conclusion. Although is conclusion involved numbers.

[hillmom]

I had heard that most of this stems from the middle school issue and that at some point the board may have to start addressing this issue. The plan B question was asked at the IPPC meeting - parents want to know what will happen if the school doesn't open in 2009. Everyone is forgetting about the middle school situation - this needs to get resolved regardless of the 3rd high school status in 2009.

NV is busting at the seems so what I have heard is that TG & WE would potentially get shifted to Waubonsie since they will move their anyway, the WV Gold campus would get converted and that potentially split shifts would be considered rather than make the capital investment in trailers because we would be talking about a time delay in the school being built not a permanent solution.

I'm really loving NSFOC now - I have a child in that 2009 Freshman class and split shifts sounds awful. Extras like sports etc. do get cut when you go to split shifts - so don't count on having anything. Talk about a quality education experience!

Wondering - can we file a lawsuit against NSFOC for catholic school tuition if there law suit is determined to be frivolous or if they can't gather enough money to post the cash bonds that will be recquired by the county for them to proceed. They can't even raise enough money for the current legal fees - where are they going to come up with millions for a bond. I wish they would stop waisting everyones time and money!

[MustangSix]

Sorry but the bridge issue to me was silly.

I don't know many kids who walk to high school when they live at that distance - I think that bridge would be empty - freshman and soph will be driven and jr and srs drive.

That's been my experience with my hs kids. Only those in the literal backyard walk.

That's ok - some folks up norht think their bridge will be used for bikers. That won't happen either. Kids don't ride bikes to hs - I chck'd the bike racks at WVHS.

Just don't think any bridge is a 'hot' reason for boundaries...

[doctorwho]

sleeplessinnpvl said:

Of course you guys are doubtful. After all, this means the SB actually has a Plan B, doesn't it? Hard to believe.

Why would the SB use this as a scare tactic? They don't need votes. At least they are considering their options. Whether you believe this is true or not, at least it makes me feel better that they are considering a Plan B.

yeah, plan B is to try an scare other potential supporters away from NSFOC -- all they are going to do is drive more there. ALready used this scare tactic you paid for once-- at least try something new. Split shifts is not going to scare anyone as much as that site.