EOLA FAILS = SPLIT SHIFTS, Trailers

[rural]

I have a large vocabulary.

ETA:

AC: pro Eola site
DC: not pro school board

[MustangSix]

brad204 said:

hillmom said:

You must not have been at the meetings in 2006 where TG residents stood up - you would have had to have been deaf not to hear it!

I am not trying to pick on you. I am jsut wondering out loud. When does the statute of limitations run out on being an idiot for these people. I mean whoever that group of people was could have moved or had a change of heart. I am not trying to be silly. But sooner or later we need to let the idiots with the orange shirts voting 80% no and the idiots saying bad things about WVHS go.. That part of history I do think needs to be laid to rest.

Hey, I was one of those idiots who wore an orange shirt and I still voted YES ... I was not going to hold the vote HOSTAGE to boundaries. Disappointed, but accepting. Thought I should 'fess up to being an Orangie!

I think both Orangies and TG were justified to be upset - vocal stomping is an ok way to process it, IMHO.

lawsuits just aren't.

[MustangSix]

rural said:

I have a large vocabulary.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And you know how to use it!!!!!

[susan]

I also want to add. I emailed Justin from the Daily Herald and asked him about his statement regarding the majority of people at the first NSFOC meeting being form Tall Grass and White Eagle. I asked him how he new that. I asked him if he took a head count by asking everyone where they were from. I just wanted to know. He said that the majority of people he spoke with were from those areas. So I replied by asking if he spoke with the majority of people. He stated no and that the person running the meeting stated that the majority of people where from Tall Grass and White Eagle. I asked him how the person running the meeting new that. He had no answer for me. Funny how, facts are getting distorted. You do know that there are other people who are othe neighborhoods who are part of the Fry community besides Tall Grass. They were also affected by the boundary changes and were not happy. Tall Grass must just be the district punching bag.

[MustangSix]

brad204 said:

mustangsix said:

I don't believe you- Naperville park dist. confirmed info ...
sorry... too many sidewalk supervisors.

I do agree - Macom is a dead horse in this town.

So I guess split shifts here we come.

I'm ok with that!

You are definitely welcome to not believe me. I do not ban people for talking back

You are welcome to the archives were there is an email from the park district stating as much. But I have no fight in that war. I just want to make sure we remember our history. Unlike you I will be here for a very long time.

Now I really like ya - you know how to go with resistance!! You could be a MHP ...

[doctorwho]

rural said:

brad204 said:

Yeah, but we have beaten that subject to death. Split shifts was so two years ago... It feels retro and cool...

Okay, I'll play, too.

I know doc and some others are okay with split shifts, but I don't see many of the nsfoc group that wanted a 3rd HS but only on BB thinking it's so great for their home values if the high schoolers are crammed in like sardines. Talk about parking problems. They don't want their kids to have to share lockers. How about 9:30 am lunch? Extra curriculars? Team sports? They'll be vying for spots with how many more kids now? (Of course all 204 sports teams will kick butt!) I don't see many of the parents that really want a quality education and memorable school experiences for their children liking this result.

Maybe they'll just send them to private schools. Would that help with the overcrowding?

Let me set the record perfectly straight

1/ I don't think split shifts will happen as the population is still not greater than before NV opened
2/ I am not for it as a permanent solution - but a temp solution until a smarter choice of land is secured - I still believe we need a 3rd HS
3/ What I said was I would rather have split shifts then send my kid to school at the MWGEN site. I would rather basically anything over that choice.

that's different than being OK with split shifts.


p.s. on the team sports - first off our schools already offer more teams than most schools due to size i.e. multiple freshman teams - a sophomore team a JV and a varsity. I lived thru it the first time with well over 1100 kids in my daughters class and there were kids whomade varsity as freshmen. So yes, compeition will be tough - but that is everywhere these days. At least they will have a team to try and make.

Private school enrollment from 204 already way up this year - check with the schools. You will get your wish though if rumors of a private school going on MACOM actually came true.

[hillmom]

brad204 said:

hillmom said:

You must not have been at the meetings in 2006 where TG residents stood up - you would have had to have been deaf not to hear it!

I am not trying to pick on you. I am jsut wondering out loud. When does the statute of limitations run out on being an idiot for these people. I mean whoever that group of people was could have moved or had a change of heart. I am not trying to be silly. But sooner or later we need to let the idiots with the orange shirts voting 80% no and the idiots saying bad things about WVHS go.. That part of history I do think needs to be laid to rest.

I suppose the statute of limitation runs out when we finally have a school. I wore an orange shirt and was a yes vote. There were lots of emails forwarded to brookdale residents that were from Tall Grass res. I am certain they never intended to be forwarded but were. There was also a group that later represented them selves as from tall grass that before one of the meeting walked by a Brookdale group and yelled about not wanting to have to go with those kids from Waubonsie. How about the blog recently on this very post that talked about not wanting to have to send their kids to school with kids from Hill.

Fact is this has gotten ugly and this is about who people don't want to go to school with. I know there are people from WE & TG that are getting caught in the cross fire. But I suppose that is no different then how people treated me as a Brookdale Res in the orange shirt.

Anyway back to split shifts.

[doctorwho]

mustangsix said:

brad204 said:

I am not trying to pick on you. I am jsut wondering out loud. When does the statute of limitations run out on being an idiot for these people. I mean whoever that group of people was could have moved or had a change of heart. I am not trying to be silly. But sooner or later we need to let the idiots with the orange shirts voting 80% no and the idiots saying bad things about WVHS go.. That part of history I do think needs to be laid to rest.

Hey, I was one of those idiots who wore an orange shirt and I still voted YES ... I was not going to hold the vote HOSTAGE to boundaries. Disappointed, but accepting. Thought I should 'fess up to being an Orangie!

I think both Orangies and TG were justified to be upset - vocal stomping is an ok way to process it, IMHO.

lawsuits just aren't.

I am glad you voted yes anyway, but let me ask you this. The main issue with the lawsuit seems to be that it could jeopardize the 3rd HS. ( it certainly wont cost more money than our SB has already blown on attorneys at BB) -

by your area voting 80% NO, what would a No majority in the vote in 2006 have done ?

killed the 3rd HS right ?

So different methods, but the same potential end result. Reminds me of the Stooges, do you want to have your head chopped off or be burnt at the stake ?


and I have no reason to doubt you M6 so this is not for you -- but don't you also wonder where those 80% went -- I have yet to hear from one anywhere since the AME site was chosen.

[WeBe204]

mustangsix said:

brad204 said:

I am not trying to pick on you. I am jsut wondering out loud. When does the statute of limitations run out on being an idiot for these people. I mean whoever that group of people was could have moved or had a change of heart. I am not trying to be silly. But sooner or later we need to let the idiots with the orange shirts voting 80% no and the idiots saying bad things about WVHS go.. That part of history I do think needs to be laid to rest.

Hey, I was one of those idiots who wore an orange shirt and I still voted YES ... I was not going to hold the vote HOSTAGE to boundaries. Disappointed, but accepting. Thought I should 'fess up to being an Orangie!

I think both Orangies and TG were justified to be upset - vocal stomping is an ok way to process it, IMHO.

lawsuits just aren't.

Is that my foot in my mouth... Sorry, I was not here so I just go with the history flow.

I do agree with your last statement.

[hillmom]

doctorwho said:

rural said:

Okay, I'll play, too.

I know doc and some others are okay with split shifts, but I don't see many of the nsfoc group that wanted a 3rd HS but only on BB thinking it's so great for their home values if the high schoolers are crammed in like sardines. Talk about parking problems. They don't want their kids to have to share lockers. How about 9:30 am lunch? Extra curriculars? Team sports? They'll be vying for spots with how many more kids now? (Of course all 204 sports teams will kick butt!) I don't see many of the parents that really want a quality education and memorable school experiences for their children liking this result.

Maybe they'll just send them to private schools. Would that help with the overcrowding?

Let me set the record perfectly straight

1/ I don't think split shifts will happen as the population is still not greater than before NV opened
2/ I am not for it as a permanent solution - but a temp solution until a smarter choice of land is secured - I still believe we need a 3rd HS
3/ What I said was I would rather have split shifts then send my kid to school at the MWGEN site. I would rather basically anything over that choice.

that's different than being OK with split shifts.


p.s. on the team sports - first off our schools already offer more teams than most schools due to size i.e. multiple freshman teams - a sophomore team a JV and a varsity. I lived thru it the first time with well over 1100 kids in my daughters class and there were kids whomade varsity as freshmen. So yes, compeition will be tough - but that is everywhere these days. At least they will have a team to try and make.

Private school enrollment from 204 already way up this year - check with the schools. You will get your wish though if rumors of a private school going on MACOM actually came true.

If you are worried about environmental - Macom would certainly not be an option!

[MustangSix]

susan said:

I also want to add. I emailed Justin from the Daily Herald and asked him about his statement regarding the majority of people at the first NSFOC meeting being form Tall Grass and White Eagle. I asked him how he new that. I asked him if he took a head count by asking everyone where they were from. I just wanted to know. He said that the majority of people he spoke with were from those areas. So I replied by asking if he spoke with the majority of people. He stated no and that the person running the meeting stated that the majority of people where from Tall Grass and White Eagle. I asked him how the person running the meeting new that. He had no answer for me. Funny how, facts are getting distorted. You do know that there are other people who are othe neighborhoods who are part of the Fry community besides Tall Grass. They were also affected by the boundary changes and were not happy. Tall Grass must just be the district punching bag.

Tall Grass stood up and did the vocal deal during the REf - they put themselves in that position. Let's be honest on that point.

But my friends in TG tell me its a TG initiative - hmmm - it's their neighbors and their best friends. I would think they would know and want to be honest. Why would TG people say it's so? I wouldn't ..

I don't believe it's a majority of TG or WE - I think NSFOC is a minority position within subdivision and within our District.

BUT they sure are puffing themselves up to pretend they are from what I can tell- a PUFFER FISH fer sure!

Not that it really matters ... does it?

[MustangSix]

doctorwho said:

mustangsix said:

Hey, I was one of those idiots who wore an orange shirt and I still voted YES ... I was not going to hold the vote HOSTAGE to boundaries. Disappointed, but accepting. Thought I should 'fess up to being an Orangie!

I think both Orangies and TG were justified to be upset - vocal stomping is an ok way to process it, IMHO.

lawsuits just aren't.

I am glad you voted yes anyway, but let me ask you this. The main issue with the lawsuit seems to be that it could jeopardize the 3rd HS. ( it certainly wont cost more money than our SB has already blown on attorneys at BB) -

by your area voting 80% NO, what would a No majority in the vote in 2006 have done ?

killed the 3rd HS right ?

So different methods, but the same potential end result. Reminds me of the Stooges, do you want to have your head chopped off or be burnt at the stake ?


and I have no reason to doubt you M6 so this is not for you -- but don't you also wonder where those 80% went -- I have yet to hear from one anywhere since the AME site was chosen.

I don't honestly know what the Orange No vote was really proving to be honest. I didn't agree with that but I supported their right to vote no -tho' it seemed a little like shooting ones self in the foot.

Hillmom?

[doctorwho]

hillmom said:

doctorwho said:

Let me set the record perfectly straight

1/ I don't think split shifts will happen as the population is still not greater than before NV opened
2/ I am not for it as a permanent solution - but a temp solution until a smarter choice of land is secured - I still believe we need a 3rd HS
3/ What I said was I would rather have split shifts then send my kid to school at the MWGEN site. I would rather basically anything over that choice.

that's different than being OK with split shifts.


p.s. on the team sports - first off our schools already offer more teams than most schools due to size i.e. multiple freshman teams - a sophomore team a JV and a varsity. I lived thru it the first time with well over 1100 kids in my daughters class and there were kids whomade varsity as freshmen. So yes, compeition will be tough - but that is everywhere these days. At least they will have a team to try and make.

Private school enrollment from 204 already way up this year - check with the schools. You will get your wish though if rumors of a private school going on MACOM actually came true.

If you are worried about environmental - Macom would certainly not be an option!

I agree and although less overall hazards than MWGEN - I don't want them. Much like Curt Bradshaw said last April 6th - he would not send kids to a site with the switching station, it just made no sense. I agree with that comment - unfortunately it seems to have changed in the past 11 months.

[rural]

doctorwho said:

mustangsix said:

Hey, I was one of those idiots who wore an orange shirt and I still voted YES ... I was not going to hold the vote HOSTAGE to boundaries. Disappointed, but accepting. Thought I should 'fess up to being an Orangie!

I think both Orangies and TG were justified to be upset - vocal stomping is an ok way to process it, IMHO.

lawsuits just aren't.

I am glad you voted yes anyway, but let me ask you this. The main issue with the lawsuit seems to be that it could jeopardize the 3rd HS. ( it certainly wont cost more money than our SB has already blown on attorneys at BB) -

by your area voting 80% NO, what would a No majority in the vote in 2006 have done ?

killed the 3rd HS right ?

So different methods, but the same potential end result. Reminds me of the Stooges, do you want to have your head chopped off or be burnt at the stake ?


and I have no reason to doubt you M6 so this is not for you -- but don't you also wonder where those 80% went -- I have yet to hear from one anywhere since the AME site was chosen.

That's why you vote. If you don't agree with something, a vote is the way to show your disapproval. Some people just wanted the SB to slow down and re-evaluate options. They didn't think the ED suit would work, and it didn't. The yes vote won. Those that voted no had reconciled themselves to a 3rd HS at BB. No lawsuit to change things to what they wanted. No chance to slow down at an appropriate time.

Now, the people who got what they voted for are now unhappy with where what they voted for it going to be placed, and we have a lovely lawsuit to show for it.

It's the natural order of things, I guess.

[doctorwho]

mustangsix said:

doctorwho said:

I am glad you voted yes anyway, but let me ask you this. The main issue with the lawsuit seems to be that it could jeopardize the 3rd HS. ( it certainly wont cost more money than our SB has already blown on attorneys at BB) -

by your area voting 80% NO, what would a No majority in the vote in 2006 have done ?

killed the 3rd HS right ?

So different methods, but the same potential end result. Reminds me of the Stooges, do you want to have your head chopped off or be burnt at the stake ?


and I have no reason to doubt you M6 so this is not for you -- but don't you also wonder where those 80% went -- I have yet to hear from one anywhere since the AME site was chosen.

I don't honestly know what the Orange No vote was really proving to be honest. I didn't agree with that but I supported their right to vote no -tho' it seemed a little like shooting ones self in the foot.

Hillmom?

Understand, I was there at the meeting when the 'march' was decided upon. I gave my opinion what might happen, including if the area voted that heavily no the 3rd HS was at risk. That vote took a lot to overcome --

what I am saying , and I think you likely agree -- the end result if the ref failed would be no worse than if the worst scenario plays out from the nsfoc lawsuit --- the SD starts over. Rememebr I am a Hill parent - twice over - so I heard the rhetoric then also.
Yet I agree - it was their right to do what they did- and if their feeling as to vote no, that's what it was.


also for Hillmom -( so I don't have to addres this twice) - my conern has nothing to do with going to school at WV ( that's my 1st choice regardless) - or with Hill kids ( my kids are both Hill kids and love it ( although the commute also less than ideal) - but somehow concerns from people like me always get lumped in with a few people who went nuts ( yeah that's the right word) at a boundary meeting 2+ years ago. That hardly seems fair.