EOLA FAILS = SPLIT SHIFTS, Trailers

[MustangSix]

What do you think they will do if Eola fails? I have no idea. BB, I think, come hell or high water is not going to happen. (unless they make like Walmart and we see prices dropping!)

[susan]

It does not matter if the kids use the bridge or not. The point is that if kids are walkers that means less busses. Less money spent by the district. More money in yours and my pockets. If parents want to drive their kids to school rather than make them walk that is their buisness. Name one 100% walking elementary school that feeds into Neuqua. There aren't any. Welch is not 100% walkers. I believe Springbrook is 100% bussed and Ashbury is also partly bussed as well. Those are the surrounding communities that I can think of, I may be missing a few. That was the argument anyway by Tall Grass. My problem with the memo was that it was false information. If you are going to circulate something to the entire district, make sure the facts are correct. I also viewed that memo as direct finger pointing towards one community. It was slap in the face to the Fry community.

[doctorwho]

hillmom said:

I had heard that most of this stems from the middle school issue and that at some point the board may have to start addressing this issue. The plan B question was asked at the IPPC meeting - parents want to know what will happen if the school doesn't open in 2009. Everyone is forgetting about the middle school situation - this needs to get resolved regardless of the 3rd high school status in 2009.

NV is busting at the seems so what I have heard is that TG & WE would potentially get shifted to Waubonsie since they will move their anyway, the WV Gold campus would get converted and that potentially split shifts would be considered rather than make the capital investment in trailers because we would be talking about a time delay in the school being built not a permanent solution.

I'm really loving NSFOC now - I have a child in that 2009 Freshman class and split shifts sounds awful. Extras like sports etc. do get cut when you go to split shifts - so don't count on having anything. Talk about a quality education experience!

Wondering - can we file a lawsuit against NSFOC for catholic school tuition if there law suit is determined to be frivolous or if they can't gather enough money to post the cash bonds that will be recquired by the county for them to proceed. They can't even raise enough money for the current legal fees - where are they going to come up with millions for a bond. I wish they would stop waisting everyones time and money!

some great points in here as add me to that suit ( but not against nsfoc) for Catholic school tuition as I too have a 2009 freshman and have already commited there rather than end up having my child at AME-MWGEN. Something I'll remember every vote going forward.

as far as sports being cut - maybe - mabe not-- I do know what that shell of a school will open with at MV in fall 2009 - you call that a full HS experience ? Sorry, I do not.

and hour and a half a day on the bus, being careful not to go near the remediation area, no gym, no pool, no auditorium, likely minimla parking, no stadiums, no vasity sports --- gee what a great deal for our sophomores and freshman that year.

[yeson321]

mustangsix said:

What do you think they will do if Eola fails? I have no idea. BB, I think, come hell or high water is not going to happen. (unless they make like Walmart and we see prices dropping!)

You have made some pretty bold assumptions that I would hope would not be passed along through the rumor mill if they are true. The School Board should be addressing these issues. No mention of this was made at the IPPC meeting.

You also posted about Macom and that turned out to have incomplete details because the full information was probably not "convenient" to disclose to anyone.

"Your post... Re: Photo camparison - Power stations at AME and M
« Reply #76 on Jan 21, 2008, 11:30pm »

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Does it bother anyone that Macom doesn't own all that land? And that they offered it up to the school district without clearing it with Naperville Park District? And that they are in some kind of litigation with Naperville Park District? (so I doubt NPD is going to be real open to wanting to be of service)?

Where I come from, those are some red flags that you want to avoid; Mr L. doesn't sound trustworthy? "

Turns out that the NPD should have been listed as an advantage as they were willing to talk to the school district.

[doctorwho]

mustangsix said:

What do you think they will do if Eola fails? I have no idea. BB, I think, come hell or high water is not going to happen. (unless they make like Walmart and we see prices dropping!)

sorry, I believe they could make BB happen tomorrow if they wanted - so put another ref up for the difference to get a safe site -- knowing that the anti-n group will now vote no like last time - but likely the ref would pass. If not use the ops funds and let's move on.

[MustangSix]

That information ws disclosed - i think at a SB meeting. Macom doesn't own all the land. I have a problem with that. I also am not interested in buying the Brooklyn Bridge - cuz I expect that's what they would be selling next..

[MustangSix]

At this point, I don't believe another ref would pass simply because people are DONE.

[MustangSix]

I'm ready to say OK split shifts - honestly. I only have one child left - she'll be fine. Let those with younger kids fight the fight. Just tired of all the stuff...

[doctorwho]

mustangsix said:

At this point, I don't believe another ref would pass simply because people are DONE.

you take one shot -- with new SB members ( at least some) - and an Admin that opens the books ( so to speak) and gives honest info for a change. Maybe an independent accounting firm. I think it would pass- but if I am wrong- you use ops fund for the difference. Also interest rates are low again, and likely to drop some more. We're in hock for the next 25 years anyway - why not some more creative financing from Holm ? Then if Daeschner is as good at getting sorporate money as was touted when he was hired - apply that to the debt when he get sit coming in.

[hillmom]

yeson321 said:

mustangsix said:

What do you think they will do if Eola fails? I have no idea. BB, I think, come hell or high water is not going to happen. (unless they make like Walmart and we see prices dropping!)

You have made some pretty bold assumptions that I would hope would not be passed along through the rumor mill if they are true. The School Board should be addressing these issues. No mention of this was made at the IPPC meeting.

You also posted about Macom and that turned out to have incomplete details because the full information was probably not "convenient" to disclosed to anyone.

"Your post... Re: Photo camparison - Power stations at AME and M
« Reply #76 on Jan 21, 2008, 11:30pm »

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Does it bother anyone that Macom doesn't own all that land? And that they offered it up to the school district without clearing it with Naperville Park District? And that they are in some kind of litigation with Naperville Park District? (so I doubt NPD is going to be real open to wanting to be of service)?

Where I come from, those are some red flags that you want to avoid; Mr L. doesn't sound trustworthy? "

Turns out that the NPD should have been listed as an advantage as they were willing to talk to the school district.

The question was brought up by a Hill rep at the last IPPC meeting becasue there were questions being raised at their PTA meeting about what will happen if the school is not ready to open and gets delayed because of all this legal stuff with NSFOC trying to stall the process. The Admins response was the school will be ready - the school will be ready.

I believe since the question has been raised again and again the school board is realizing or starting to say that at some point they would have to consider alternative options to relieve the over crowding. Of course splits would end up being considered.

[hillmom]

Not a chance would I vote yes for a referendum - I get that there are people that have environmental concerns - but my belief is that these people have become the puppets for the people that just don't want to attend Waubonsie. Absolutley unaceptable to me that this group of people who stood up and said "I don't want my children going to school with those kids" are know famed for their environmental activisim - please I have some land in Florida to sell you!



I am not canonizing anyone or anygroup - but because I do not believe the AME- MWGEN site is safe I am being forced to leave my district. So sorry, I won't be buying any bridges - I have another education to pay for.

I'll ask you the same question - would you build your house on the MWGEN land or pay a premium to build somewhere safe. And I don't for a second beliee anyone would choose that particular piece of property if you have a choice.


I agree with you on one thing, for the handful of people in nsfoc that really only do not want to go to WVHS- how bad to things have to be with our leadership in 204 , when they look like the more sane of the 2 groups? This is sort of a whose the smartest idiot contest.

[WeBe204]

mustangsix said:

That information ws disclosed - i think at a SB meeting. Macom doesn't own all the land. I have a problem with that. I also am not interested in buying the Brooklyn Bridge - cuz I expect that's what they would be selling next..

I really do not want to reopen the Macom can of worms. I do think its a dead issue. But I might as well state my peace on the subject since its back up on the board again.

There are a lot of political reasons why this site was not chosen. There was also the delivery date.(2009 vs 2010)

However, let me be very clear. Macom owns the land free and clear. There is a life estate so there would be a house on the property until the owner passes. Wow, residential development near a high school. Hmm.. The Park District was not a problem. That was a lie. The land report for Macom was full of half truths. Oh, and it also cost the same if not cheaper than MidwestGen/AME based on the last offer by Macom.

Oh, and yes there is a road right now where the high school should be. Funny all the infrastructure including the currently turned off stop lights are sitting on 95th awaiting the simple traffic pattern change. Please, seems easier than remediating the MidWest Gen Site.

Yes, Macom is also near the train tracks (although east of them), is near a pipeline, and a switching station. These items I can not try and gloss over.

[hillmom]

brad204 said:

mustangsix said:

That information ws disclosed - i think at a SB meeting. Macom doesn't own all the land. I have a problem with that. I also am not interested in buying the Brooklyn Bridge - cuz I expect that's what they would be selling next..

I really do not want to reopen the Macom can of worms. I do think its a dead issue. But I might as well state my peace on the subject since its back up on the board again.

There are a lot of political reasons why this site was not chosen. There was also the delivery date.(2009 vs 2010)

However, let me be very clear. Macom owns the land free and clear. There is a life estate so there would be a house on the property until the owner passes. Wow, residential development near a high school. Hmm.. The Park District was not a problem. That was a lie. The land report for Macom was full of half truths. Oh, and it also cost the same if not cheaper than MidwestGen/AME based on the last offer by Macom.

Oh, and yes there is a road right now where the high school should be. Funny all the infrastructure including the currently turned off stop lights are sitting on 95th awaiting the simple traffic pattern change. Please, seems easier than remediating the MidWest Gen Site.

Yes, Macom is also near the train tracks (although east of them), is near a pipeline, and a switching station. These items I can not try and gloss over.

Don't forget the explosive gas plant next door!

[MustangSix]

brad204 said:

mustangsix said:

That information ws disclosed - i think at a SB meeting. Macom doesn't own all the land. I have a problem with that. I also am not interested in buying the Brooklyn Bridge - cuz I expect that's what they would be selling next..

I really do not want to reopen the Macom can of worms. I do think its a dead issue. But I might as well state my peace on the subject since its back up on the board again.

There are a lot of political reasons why this site was not chosen. There was also the delivery date.(2009 vs 2010)

However, let me be very clear. Macom owns the land free and clear. There is a life estate so there would be a house on the property until the owner passes. Wow, residential development near a high school. Hmm.. The Park District was not a problem. That was a lie. The land report for Macom was full of half truths. Oh, and it also cost the same if not cheaper than MidwestGen/AME based on the last offer by Macom.

Oh, and yes there is a road right now where the high school should be. Funny all the infrastructure including the currently turned off stop lights are sitting on 95th awaiting the simple traffic pattern change. Please, seems easier than remediating the MidWest Gen Site.

Yes, Macom is also near the train tracks (although east of them), is near a pipeline, and a switching station. These items I can not try and gloss over.

I don't believe you- Naperville park dist. confirmed info ...
sorry... too many sidewalk supervisors.

I do agree - Macom is a dead horse in this town.

So I guess split shifts here we come.

I'm ok with that!

[WeBe204]

hillmom said:

Don't forget the explosive gas plant next door!

I also hear its ground zero in the event of termal nuclear war