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Post by slp on Apr 10, 2008 16:31:48 GMT -6
d204mom, you are hilarious!
I just hope that decisions can start to be made without a grudge leading the way. ie: the move to leave BB was due to some level of arrogance/grudge on the school boards part. Afterall , they always said they could afford worst case scenario, but walked anyway due to the fact that they 'lost' and egos were damaged.
Now I fear they will make quick rash decisions due to a grudge against NSFOC. Lets remember that NSFOC is a small group of people and yet my fear is that they will 'punish' (word used on Sun blog..not mine) entire areas due to their desire to 'save face'.
I really hope that they can go back to BB like adults and negotiate on the property that best suits are district.
Any other deviations will create the same type of chaos that the Eola site did as it will be construed as a 'bait and switch' according to MM's own language.
Lets make BB work people!
eta: it is not my opinion that attending WVHS is a punishment...I use the term punishment to mean that they will not give in to the demands of the NSFOC suit. Many people who are in favor of BB are not part of NSFOC and have always stood by the school board. I hope they keep that in mind.
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Post by snerdley on Apr 10, 2008 16:33:23 GMT -6
I think you want the Sun Blog.... my thoughts exactly! |
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 10, 2008 16:33:36 GMT -6
So are we looking at yet another lawsuit from Midwest Generation? BB is to expensive unless of course you build a smaller school. or the SD goes ahead with the plan and we reep yet another referendum to finish off the school. What I really want to know and have continually been asking is what have we paid in legal fees? Who is responsible to pay for all the testing etc at Midwest Generation? School will not be ready by 2009 - maybe 2010. That is 4 years after the referendum passed. What has our district done about the so called overcrowding? Nothing!! Housing is down, enrollment is down. Yes, there is a bubble working through the system just like in other districts. I would say look at another alternative - such as a Frontier campus up north to help the crowding at WV. Put portables in place if need be at the middle schools. Again, Neuqua was always meant to be added onto if need be (that is what we were told during the freshman campus referendum), If need be do that as well. The hallway crowding - not sure how to elimate - what do they call it when kids pass at different times - just have 1/2 the school pass and then at the 2nd bell have the other half pass. The lunchroom crowding is easily fixed by letting the students leave campus for lunch. We were told many years ago that classroom space at NV could easily be added but don't know about WV - seems like it's a habitrail of add-ons. How much more can it take?  I am not advocating additions, but I wanted to say someone that brought this up to me last Monday said that the proposal the SD received a few year ago that was to add 600 student capacity to NV main campus also included addressing the hallway situation. Maybe someone closer to it than me at that time can address. I believe the cost was like $11M-$12M. Again, have never looked at the addition situation myself. |
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Post by momof156graders on Apr 10, 2008 16:35:09 GMT -6
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Plainfield high schools are not comparable to WV and NV - no pool, etc. here's the school they built for $56M just south of Builta learningcommunity202.org/PEHS/look at construction photos - and they are opening with a swim team, so I am guessing they have a pool. SOmeone maybe can look into Thanks for the pictures. School looks great! 56 million? Our school board is being sued by Brach and Brodie in their separate suits for 10 million in legal fees? The undisclosed amount as a result of the $40 million lost by PRIt pulling out.? So 204 may end up owing more for NOTHING - before even owning land for a highschool- then 202 built an entire high school for....Fiscally responsible. |
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Post by bbc on Apr 10, 2008 16:35:45 GMT -6
I would be very cautious about what the SB does next. I have no insight but would be surprised if they immediately selected a site (BB) that would make the same people happy that they feel have made their life miserable. I would expect them to be vindictive before they would give in. That seems to be how they operate.
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 10, 2008 16:37:52 GMT -6
There is buzz on the green board that something is going to be announced tomorrow regarding a site. Could it be that we will buy more from AME? sure that would be the next move for the SB-SD The gas mains do not change / we would have a next door neighbor of unremediated polluted land / it in no way addresses commute issues from potential increased costs of up to $1M per year/ more kids moving / more crossing tracks / the tracks stay / the high power lines / station move a few hundred feet and it would move the school a whopping few hundred feet towards the center of population. Under the Illinois Build Smart program what would that change ? Answer - virtually nothing. So I guess we can count on it then ? |
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Post by snerdley on Apr 10, 2008 16:38:49 GMT -6
I would be very cautious about what the SB does next. I have no insight but would be surprised if they immediately selected a site (BB) that would make the same people happy that they feel have made their life miserable. I would expect them to be vindictive before they would give in. That seems to be how they operate. Why is this OK regardless of how one feels about the current situation? They are duty bound to act in the best interests of the entire district and all the kids - but they continually IMO serve only some. |
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Post by Arch on Apr 10, 2008 16:38:56 GMT -6
I would be very cautious about what the SB does next. I have no insight but would be surprised if they immediately selected a site (BB) that would make the same people happy that they feel have made their life miserable. I would expect them to be vindictive before they would give in. That seems to be how they operate. Maybe they'll send out maps. |
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Post by rural on Apr 10, 2008 16:39:29 GMT -6
I would be very cautious about what the SB does next. I have no insight but would be surprised if they immediately selected a site (BB) that would make the same people happy that they feel have made their life miserable. I would expect them to be vindictive before they would give in. That seems to be how they operate. Oh, I don't know. Maybe they'll just file a counterclaim against NSFOC for the difference in the cost between the two sites as a result of the deal falling though because of them. (Not really going to happen, I do realize that.  ) |
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Post by bbc on Apr 10, 2008 16:41:21 GMT -6
I would be very cautious about what the SB does next. I have no insight but would be surprised if they immediately selected a site (BB) that would make the same people happy that they feel have made their life miserable. I would expect them to be vindictive before they would give in. That seems to be how they operate. Why is this OK regardless of how one feels about the current situation? They are duty bound to act in the best interests of the entire district and all the kids - but they continually IMO serve only some. I never said it was OK in my quote. Just my opinion that the ego of MM is too big to give in. I would suspect they are talking the AME right now and not BB. |
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Post by Arch on Apr 10, 2008 16:42:58 GMT -6
I would be very cautious about what the SB does next. I have no insight but would be surprised if they immediately selected a site (BB) that would make the same people happy that they feel have made their life miserable. I would expect them to be vindictive before they would give in. That seems to be how they operate. Oh, I don't know. Maybe they'll just file a counterclaim against NSFOC for the difference in the cost between the two sites as a result of the deal falling though because of them. (Not really going to happen, I do realize that. ) To come to court, wouldn't one's hands have to be clean for such a thing? It would be interesting to see what non factual or undocumented claims / basis they would use. |
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Post by slp on Apr 10, 2008 16:43:00 GMT -6
I was reading the Sun blog (don't know why I do as it is very hurtful) and noticed a post that said,
"no matter what happens , no one from TG should be allowed to set foot in NVHS or the new high school" .
I find that comment to be very infuriating.
I think WVHS deserves better. First the Brookdale folks demonstrated their desire to get out and now bloggers insinuate that being sent to WVHS is a punishment.
This all needs to stop. All of our schools are excellent.
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Post by WeBe204 on Apr 10, 2008 16:46:03 GMT -6
I never said it was OK in my quote. Just my opinion that the ego of MM is too big to give in. I would suspect they are talking the AME right now and not BB. I am of the exact same opinion. I am interested to see what the spin will be on the land costing closer to 24M. (basing that number on d204mom's calculation) |
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Post by slp on Apr 10, 2008 16:46:37 GMT -6
I would be very cautious about what the SB does next. I have no insight but would be surprised if they immediately selected a site (BB) that would make the same people happy that they feel have made their life miserable. I would expect them to be vindictive before they would give in. That seems to be how they operate. unfortunate but true. That is why an independant negotiating team should come in and sit down with the school board and BB and work this out. |
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 10, 2008 16:46:48 GMT -6
I was reading the Sun blog (don't know why I do as it is very hurtful) and noticed a post that said, "no matter what happens , no one from TG should be allowed to set foot in NVHS or the new high school" . I find that comment to be very infuriating. I think WVHS deserves better. First the Brookdale folks demonstrated their desire to get out and now bloggers insinuate that being sent to WVHS is a punishment. This all needs to stop. All of our schools are excellent. as the parent of a proud Warrior alum, it pi$$es me off also. Maybe the ploy is to try and build the 'perception ' issue and need for a New WVHS even more. It is really low.... It is a great school, and it seems some who profess to want to 'fix it' so badly are much of the problem as far as perception goes. |
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