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Post by southsidemom on Apr 17, 2008 8:26:41 GMT -6
Hope NSFOC does not fall for it. Stay the course in what you believe. I know BB plans to. CB is way too obvious for me. I view him as the Emperor in Star Wars. He manipulates the feelings of people to get them to do what he wants. His teary eyed speeches are not backed up by his actions. He is so transparent. If his heart was nearly as kind as he tries to represent, he would never have let Fry (or any other school) continually take the fall for everything. Fry is an elementary school for crying out loud! Just think of the impact this has on the about 850 students, and all fifth grade and under! CB is NO HERO! I hear he did some major backbeddling last night in response to a few questions. Not surprised. |
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Post by southsidemom on Apr 17, 2008 8:30:06 GMT -6
I was taken aback when he told the crowd that all the other elementaries except one have a negative perception of the Fry community. Now how would he know that? Did they send out a "Do you hate Fry" survey rather than the A/C one they had planned to? "Sorry, we're too busy trying to figure out the level of hatred toward the Fry community that we have helped foster to follow up on that pesky AC problem right now." What I really think (and thanks for the laugh AE - that was some funny stuff!) is that they might have made up the emails that would "curl your hair" (or was it ears?!). Or it's entirely possible they came from some other area to create a problem. I smelled a rat on this from the first we heard of it at the site selection meeting. But at the end of the day, IMO the "emails" were used as justification for instituting Option 6. That's what they wanted all along (a new WVHS), but the referendum would not have passed. Well, sorry, folks, even if they received some hateful email, it shouldn't cause the SB or district to do anything differently than what was otherwise in the best interest of the district and kids. Otherwise, it's retaliation. And to use the "delphi logic" that someone brought up yesterday, now we're supposed to feel bad that the rest of the district doesn't like us. So why would he say this? Well, if only NSFOC would drop the lawsuit, everyone would like us again! I'm not a leader or member of NSFOC, but I don't think CB telling those who may have been in the crowd that he "felt sorry for us" will cause them to call off the dogs. On a positive note, I know the meeting went late and it did seem he was trying his best to answer the questions. I can tell you snerdly - there is a large Watts contingent on this board as you well know -- and CB does NOT speak for us on this, or seemingly much of anything else right now.. He obviously does speak for some areas though, maybe his own back yard again ? And I know I'm preaching to the choir here, nsfoc is not exclusive to TG, nor is it a TG sponsored group Sure, now they will start the whole 'can't we all just get along' crap, now that his area has what they want... nice. M2 and SB are banking on "they will forget all about this and it will all blow over". Sad part is that he they may be right.  I can speak for myself and say I will remember this whole mess when it is time to vote for any future refs. SB pushed this land purchase through and now are saying this is all over....but it is just beginning. BB is going to stick it to us big time and they have all the ammunition to do it. And NO....NSFOC did not give it them (I know that is often the retort). |
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Post by cornholio on Apr 17, 2008 8:31:58 GMT -6
Is that really the school board's thinking?? Hurry up and buy the land, and all of the lawsuits will go away?  |
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 17, 2008 8:40:40 GMT -6
Is that really the school board's thinking?? Hurry up and buy the land, and all of the lawsuits will go away? I think they are going by that playground legal ruling, possession is 9/10 of the law |
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Post by d204mom on Apr 17, 2008 8:40:42 GMT -6
I am still in shock that CB told us at the meeting that everyone hates us!! That only fuels the fire. I am sure the NSFOC will not drop their lawsuit do to more name calling. UNFREAKEN unbelievable!! Daeschner and Metzger have severly underestimated the mistrust and hatred they've created towards the district leadership. This will come back to haunt them sooner rather than later. Daeschner is just a tourist on his way from Kentucky to Sun City and doesn't give a rat about the long term. The others? |
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Post by d204mom on Apr 17, 2008 8:44:47 GMT -6
Sorry folks, I just wanted to head back to the topic of "What I want the SB to know". I want them to know that kharma is a b*tc* and I fully believe that what goes around comes around. So when they are smuggly playing this district just remember that what you give out comes back to you twofold. We may never see the way the kharma kicks back at them but I am confident that it will. Call it a hard earned life lesson. and what happens if even 1 MV student / staff member gets seriously ill? Even if there is no concrete evidence that the location caused the illness, wouldn't you wonder? A lot of doubt for one location. By all means SB, keep rushing directly into this mess. Don't need evidence. You need one sick child and the site selection report. |
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Post by WeBe204 on Apr 17, 2008 8:54:27 GMT -6
I am still in shock that CB told us at the meeting that everyone hates us!! That only fuels the fire. I am sure the NSFOC will not drop their lawsuit do to more name calling. UNFREAKEN unbelievable!! Daeschner and Metzger have severly underestimated the mistrust and hatred they've created towards the district leadership. This will come back to haunt them sooner rather than later. Daeschner is just a tourist on his way from Kentucky to Sun City and doesn't give a rat about the long term. The others? Let me ask this. What if by 2011 we have a new super and say a dramatically different board. What then? This is not a conspiracy theory just a reality. The common buzz is at least three of the current four are not going to run again. What if the same happens in the 2011 elections? Will all of this baggage carry over to the new board or not. I wonder how much of the fact that most of these people are at or the end of there board careers plays into the burn the community bridge approach to getting the HS built. |
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Post by blankcheck on Apr 17, 2008 9:09:20 GMT -6
Yes-It will carry over because people will not be able to afford any more in taxes.
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Post by d204mom on Apr 17, 2008 9:13:18 GMT -6
Daeschner and Metzger have severly underestimated the mistrust and hatred they've created towards the district leadership. This will come back to haunt them sooner rather than later. Daeschner is just a tourist on his way from Kentucky to Sun City and doesn't give a rat about the long term. The others? Let me ask this. What if by 2011 we have a new super and say a dramatically different board. What then? This is not a conspiracy theory just a reality. The common buzz is at least three of the current four are not going to run again. What if the same happens in the 2011 elections? Will all of this baggage carry over to the new board or not. I wonder how much of the fact that most of these people are at or the end of there board careers plays into the burn the community bridge approach to getting the HS built. Yes it will carry forward. Many involved in fighting the 2005 & 2006 referendums initially were angered by a decision to bus their kindergartners out of their subdivision in the '90s. My guess is not that they were so pissed about the bussing, it was their perception of how their concerns were addressed. That incident left a bad taste in their mouth and they began to question every decision being made. Multiply the number of angry people that had a hand in failing the 2005 referendum by about 10,000 and you've got what we're seeing today. The loss of trust will cause us all to pay a huge price going forward. ETA - And don't think the teachers don't know they are up for a "Daeschner" next. |
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 17, 2008 9:16:02 GMT -6
Daeschner and Metzger have severly underestimated the mistrust and hatred they've created towards the district leadership. This will come back to haunt them sooner rather than later. Daeschner is just a tourist on his way from Kentucky to Sun City and doesn't give a rat about the long term. The others? Let me ask this. What if by 2011 we have a new super and say a dramatically different board. What then? This is not a conspiracy theory just a reality. The common buzz is at least three of the current four are not going to run again. What if the same happens in the 2011 elections? Will all of this baggage carry over to the new board or not. I wonder how much of the fact that most of these people are at or the end of there board careers plays into the burn the community bridge approach to getting the HS built. the legacy this group will leave behind is one of complete mistrust and I am sure every future candidate will go through extreme scrutiny as to hidden motives and objectives. And likely some will run who will have a 'my area needs representation too' platform, as well as those who will run with the entire district in mind. I too hear 3/4 will not run again ( don't know if that's true or not) - so there will be a different makeup- but the divisions they have created will be here for a long time - maybe forever as I hear rumblings of splitting 204 into 2 districts. This is the legacy they will leave behind...and it's not a good one... |
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 17, 2008 9:19:59 GMT -6
Yes-It will carry over because people will not be able to afford any more in taxes. agree that the timing of tax increases ( and a huge one potentially if BB wins suits) -with an economy in the tank right now - is causing/and will cause more hardships |
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Post by WeBe204 on Apr 17, 2008 9:24:50 GMT -6
ETA - And don't think the teachers don't know they are up for a "Daeschner" next. Well the replacement of principle at NVHS and the bringing of an outsider should have been a wake-up call on that topic. I am very interested to see how union negotiations go this time. |
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Post by doctorwho on Apr 17, 2008 9:28:12 GMT -6
ETA - And don't think the teachers don't know they are up for a "Daeschner" next. Well the replacement of principle at NVHS and the bringing of an outsider should have been a wake-up call on that topic. I am very interested to see how union negotiations go this time. Trust me, from the 2 teachers I know very well here, they already have their opinons on what's coming |
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Post by slp on Apr 17, 2008 9:29:17 GMT -6
ETA - And don't think the teachers don't know they are up for a "Daeschner" next. Well the replacement of principle at NVHS and the bringing of an outsider should have been a wake-up call on that topic. I am very interested to see how union negotiations go this time. Any word on when we will know who the new principal of WVHS is? |
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Post by Arch on Apr 17, 2008 9:39:40 GMT -6
Sorry folks, I just wanted to head back to the topic of "What I want the SB to know". I want them to know that kharma is a b*tc* and I fully believe that what goes around comes around. So when they are smuggly playing this district just remember that what you give out comes back to you twofold. We may never see the way the kharma kicks back at them but I am confident that it will. Call it a hard earned life lesson. I've always subscribed to the Wiccan rule of three. As soon as Brach trust files, there will be 3 lawsuits. |
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I can speak for myself and say I will remember this whole mess when it is time to vote for any future refs. 
