WVHS enrollment numbers

[fence]

And that makes me feel OK because...... I voted for and am paying for a 3rd HS because we need MORE room in our HS, and my new HS will get LESS room.

So WV was tight but we could manage with 3600 students. You realize that you just essentially said we don't need a 3rd HS, right?

Why would anyone attending WV the first 2 years be OK with this? Or is this just another take one for the team situation? The list of things people need to take is getting a little too long in my opinion.

warriorpride said:

fence said:

I'm sorry but that's kind of crap. I am lamenting the fact that WV is going to get the shaft 2009/2010/2011 because of a lack of attention, planning, and, oh, brainpower. Me pretending I'm Mary Poppins doesn't change the fact that there are 3600 kids in a building that wasn't built for it.

WV was able to handle that amount just before NV opened. It was tight, but they managed.

[fryfox]

It is unacceptable with a 3rd high school opening. There should be a way to make it work. CV asked Kathy Birkett if we could move some Juniors or other Freshman there temporarily too and KB said there would still be too much construction going on to fit any more kids. If we wait til 2010, the construction could actually be complete.

[warriorpride]

fence said:

And that makes me feel OK because...... I voted for and am paying for a 3rd HS because we need MORE room in our HS, and my new HS will get LESS room.

So WV was tight but we could manage with 3600 students. You realize that you just essentially said we don't need a 3rd HS, right?

Why would anyone attending WV the first 2 years be OK with this? Or is this just another take one for the team situation? The list of things people need to take is getting a little too long in my opinion.

warriorpride said:

WV was able to handle that amount just before NV opened. It was tight, but they managed.

don't put words in my mouth - I said the WV was able to handle it, temporarily, just before NV opened - by your logic, we didn't need NV, either

like everyone else, you've paid for a few ESs and MSs that your kids didn't go to either

[wolverine]

warriorpride said:

southsidemom said:

We need to face it. District is going downhill. Reputation amongst people new to the area is not as favorable anymore. Do I love where I live? Absolutely, but if buying now I would not pick anywhere in 204.

204 will be as good (or as bad) as the parents, students, and faculty make it - people can choose to lament everything or charge forward with a positive attitude - the sooner this happens, the better for all of 204

Thanks for the Pop Psychology thought of the day, I have my kids contemplate this on their 40 minutes commute.

And do the "needs of the many" mean you get to totally hose an area if a majority is OK? 15 ES's get their closest HS, so the others should just shut up a take one for the team, right?

[warriorpride]

fryfox said:

It is unacceptable with a 3rd high school opening. There should be a way to make it work. CV asked Kathy Birkett if we could move some Juniors or other Freshman there temporarily too and KB said there would still be too much construction going on to fit any more kids. If we wait til 2010, the construction could actually be complete.

and waiting until 10 will further crowd the MSs and HSs - each graduating class is replaced by a larger class

[warriorpride]

wolverine said:

warriorpride said:

204 will be as good (or as bad) as the parents, students, and faculty make it - people can choose to lament everything or charge forward with a positive attitude - the sooner this happens, the better for all of 204

Thanks for the Pop Psychology thought of the day, I have my kids contemplate this on their 40 minutes commute.

And do the "needs of the many" mean you get to totally hose an area if a majority is OK? 15 ES's get their closest HS, so the others should just shut up a take one for the team, right?

no - it means that for every tweak that was made, someone else is impacted in a way that would give them as much right as you have to complain

it really just means - we need a 3rd HS ASAP

[momto4]

fence said:

And that makes me feel OK because...... I voted for and am paying for a 3rd HS because we need MORE room in our HS, and my new HS will get LESS room.

So WV was tight but we could manage with 3600 students. You realize that you just essentially said we don't need a 3rd HS, right?

Why would anyone attending WV the first 2 years be OK with this? Or is this just another take one for the team situation? The list of things people need to take is getting a little too long in my opinion.

warriorpride said:

WV was able to handle that amount just before NV opened. It was tight, but they managed.

I will have a student at WV the first year and I'm ok with the 3300 kids in the main building that year because putting up with one year of crowding gives the district overcrowding relief throughout all of the high schools and middle schools forever after. It is just not that big a deal. The kids will be fine.

[fence]

That's the point. Building MV so it is actually a HS solves problems on more than one level. You can wait until MV is actually a functioning HS, add Juniors and people can actually feel better about attending.

Miraculously, that also solves the problem of WV getting utterly screwed for 2 years.

Otherwise, why are we even going to bother? We are going to screw the people attending MV year one, and screw the people attending WV year one and two.

NV remains the golden child, with nothing but blue skies ahead, and the two schools that everyone CLAIMS to be so concerned about are twisting in the wind.

All because we just HAD to open the HS in 2009.

It has nothing to do with anything other than I thought we all wanted to give WV a fair shake. If we don't why don't we just say we don't give a crap?

All this other peace love and togetherness talk is just completely naive. If you want people to get on board, give them a better freaking train.

fryfox said:

It is unacceptable with a 3rd high school opening. There should be a way to make it work. CV asked Kathy Birkett if we could move some Juniors or other Freshman there temporarily too and KB said there would still be too much construction going on to fit any more kids. If we wait til 2010, the construction could actually be complete.

[fence]

Then send juniors to MV. They'll be fine too. Better yet, don't build a new HS at all. Because its not a big deal. The kids will be fine.

momto4 said:

fence said:

And that makes me feel OK because...... I voted for and am paying for a 3rd HS because we need MORE room in our HS, and my new HS will get LESS room.

So WV was tight but we could manage with 3600 students. You realize that you just essentially said we don't need a 3rd HS, right?

Why would anyone attending WV the first 2 years be OK with this? Or is this just another take one for the team situation? The list of things people need to take is getting a little too long in my opinion.

I will have a student at WV the first year and I'm ok with the 3300 kids in the main building that year because putting up with one year of crowding gives the district overcrowding relief throughout all of the high schools and middle schools forever after. It is just not that big a deal. The kids will be fine.

[momto4]

fence said:

I really don't mean to be harping on this, but WHAT are you talking about? NV attendance is going DOWN in 2009. It will be getting relief. Relatively speaking.

WV will be getting 3600 kids. 750 MORE than they have now in the main campus.

Opening in 2010 doesn't incrimentally change any of this. The date the school will open totally irrelevant. Perhaps it adds some kids at the HS level, but it doesn't add 750 to ONE SCHOOL. Not anywhere in the freaking neighborhood.

And anyone that tells me that this is just me not being cooperative is obviously NOT attending WV in 2009. Bottom line. Go ahead, call me a liar.

I don't think any posters here are actually attending WV anytime in the future. High schoolers have absolutely no interest in reading or posting here.

I will have a daughter at WV in 2009. Everyone will be fine. There will not be 750 more kids in the Green campus than there are now. There will be the current freshman and sophomore WV classes as juniors and seniors (about 900 per class). There will be the new boundary freshman and sophomores there that should be less than 750 each. So, this gives the 3300 quoted last night, or about 400 more than are in the building now. Still not great but not as bad as you say.

[doctorwho]

fence said:

Then send juniors to MV. They'll be fine too. Better yet, don't build a new HS at all. Because its not a big deal. The kids will be fine.

momto4 said:

I will have a student at WV the first year and I'm ok with the 3300 kids in the main building that year because putting up with one year of crowding gives the district overcrowding relief throughout all of the high schools and middle schools forever after. It is just not that big a deal. The kids will be fine.

and do not send juniors to MV until it is done! - with no varsity sports in their signing year - that would really suck. Remember MV - no gym - no stadium - nopool - all part of that equal 2009-10 HS experience.

I have a real concern about exactly what these kids are going to get in Aug 2009

[warriorpride]

I don't think that I can say anything that will make you feel better or different - so, let's agree to disagree at how horrible it will or won't be at WV in 09 and 10 - I'll have a kid there, and I'm not worried - I know some others that feel the same way

fence said:

That's the point. Building MV so it is actually a HS solves problems on more than one level. You can wait until MV is actually a functioning HS, add Juniors and people can actually feel better about attending.

Miraculously, that also solves the problem of WV getting utterly screwed for 2 years.

Otherwise, why are we even going to bother? We are going to screw the people attending MV year one, and screw the people attending WV year one and two.

NV remains the golden child, with nothing but blue skies ahead, and the two schools that everyone CLAIMS to be so concerned about are twisting in the wind.

All because we just HAD to open the HS in 2009.

It has nothing to do with anything other than I thought we all wanted to give WV a fair shake. If we don't why don't we just say we don't give a crap?

All this other peace love and togetherness talk is just completely naive. If you want people to get on board, give them a better freaking train.

fryfox said:

It is unacceptable with a 3rd high school opening. There should be a way to make it work. CV asked Kathy Birkett if we could move some Juniors or other Freshman there temporarily too and KB said there would still be too much construction going on to fit any more kids. If we wait til 2010, the construction could actually be complete.

[fence]

Um, yeah, I didn't mean I was attending WV personally. But my son will be in 2009. So it was the collective "me" as in me and my family. So we, together, will be attending WV, and we, together, are unhappy about attending a 3600 kid HS.

Whatever, this just makes no logical sense. We supposedly have an overcrowding problem, and in order to solve it, it requires SUPERovercrowding for 2 years 1/2 the kids in the district at the HS that people say they want to help the most.

I am at a total loss. I thought this district had more horsepower.

momto4 said:

fence said:

I really don't mean to be harping on this, but WHAT are you talking about? NV attendance is going DOWN in 2009. It will be getting relief. Relatively speaking.

WV will be getting 3600 kids. 750 MORE than they have now in the main campus.

Opening in 2010 doesn't incrimentally change any of this. The date the school will open totally irrelevant. Perhaps it adds some kids at the HS level, but it doesn't add 750 to ONE SCHOOL. Not anywhere in the freaking neighborhood.

And anyone that tells me that this is just me not being cooperative is obviously NOT attending WV in 2009. Bottom line. Go ahead, call me a liar.

I don't think any posters here are actually attending WV anytime in the future. High schoolers have absolutely no interest in reading or posting here.

I will have a daughter at WV in 2009. Everyone will be fine. There will not be 750 more kids in the Green campus than there are now. There will be the current freshman and sophomore WV classes as juniors and seniors (about 900 per class). There will be the new boundary freshman and sophomores there that should be less than 750 each. So, this gives the 3300 quoted last night, or about 400 more than are in the building now. Still not great but not as bad as you say.

[momto4]

fence said:

Um, yeah, I didn't mean I was attending WV personally. But my son will be in 2009. So it was the collective "me" as in me and my family. So we, together, will be attending WV, and we, together, are unhappy about attending a 3600 kid HS.

Whatever, this just makes no logical sense. We supposedly have an overcrowding problem, and in order to solve it, it requires SUPERovercrowding for 2 years 1/2 the kids in the district at the HS that people say they want to help the most.

I am at a total loss. I thought this district had more horsepower.

Ok, by that token I'm attending both WV and MV in year 1 if the school opens on time.

WV will NOT have 3600 that year or any year. Yes, this is the beginning of permanently solving the overcrowding problem.

There are no good solutions to this (or any of our problems lately it seems). I think it would be worse to move juniors than to have everyone crowded the first year. Second year the building will have only about 5% more kids than now.

I think it would also be a bad idea to send kids to MV that first year that won't wind up in MV.

What do you think could/should be done? Last night they suggested moving the Scullen trailers to WV for those two years.

[d204mom]

What happened to George Vicker's idea of keeping the gold campus open one additional year and implementing the MS changes a year after MV opens?