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Post by worldpeace on Feb 20, 2008 21:19:32 GMT -6
Very good question D204mom. That should be posed to the SB, again.
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Post by concerned on Feb 20, 2008 21:24:45 GMT -6
The question of using Scullen's portable at WV was also brought up. They didn't seem to think they needed it though.
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Post by EagleDad on Feb 20, 2008 21:30:33 GMT -6
Last night they suggested moving the Scullen trailers to WV for those two years. Please remember... Those trailers, and the guarantee of not needing them in 2009 are incorporated into the current SD plan as $900,000 in revenue. The safety net has been removed. |
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Post by wvhsparent on Feb 20, 2008 21:50:35 GMT -6
That's the point. Building MV so it is actually a HS solves problems on more than one level. You can wait until MV is actually a functioning HS, add Juniors and people can actually feel better about attending. Miraculously, that also solves the problem of WV getting utterly screwed for 2 years. Otherwise, why are we even going to bother? We are going to screw the people attending MV year one, and screw the people attending WV year one and two. NV remains the golden child, with nothing but blue skies ahead, and the two schools that everyone CLAIMS to be so concerned about are twisting in the wind. All because we just HAD to open the HS in 2009. It has nothing to do with anything other than I thought we all wanted to give WV a fair shake. If we don't why don't we just say we don't give a crap? All this other peace love and togetherness talk is just completely naive. If you want people to get on board, give them a better freaking train. It is unacceptable with a 3rd high school opening. There should be a way to make it work. CV asked Kathy Birkett if we could move some Juniors or other Freshman there temporarily too and KB said there would still be too much construction going on to fit any more kids. If we wait til 2010, the construction could actually be complete. fence, The very same WVHS crowded condition would have occurred wherever they built MVHS....including BB. |
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Post by warriorpride on Feb 20, 2008 21:57:56 GMT -6
What happened to George Vicker's idea of keeping the gold campus open one additional year and implementing the MS changes a year after MV opens? we can't forget that a key part of MV opening is getting WV Gold switched back to MS 7. The crowding is building more at the MS level right now. |
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Post by d204mom on Feb 20, 2008 22:00:03 GMT -6
What happened to George Vicker's idea of keeping the gold campus open one additional year and implementing the MS changes a year after MV opens? we can't forget that a key part of MV opening is getting WV Gold switched back to MS 7. The crowding is building more at the MS level right now. It's a matter of concentrating the pain pretty much all at WV or spreading out the pain a bit among the middle schools - some are more impacted than others. |
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Post by warriorpride on Feb 20, 2008 22:02:39 GMT -6
we can't forget that a key part of MV opening is getting WV Gold switched back to MS 7. The crowding is building more at the MS level right now. It's a matter of concentrating the pain pretty much all at WV or spreading out the pain a bit among the middle schools - some are more impacted than others. I wonder if NV, with a larger capacity is better equipped to handle more excess. Could the current NV boundaries stay in effect for 09, reducing the numbers moving over to WV? |
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Post by momto4 on Feb 20, 2008 22:06:55 GMT -6
fence, The very same WVHS crowded condition would have occurred wherever they built MVHS....including BB. It has always been the plan and always concerned me as I thought I'd have two kids at WV that year. Now just one. I brought this up to the SB two years ago. Just as it has always been the plan for NV to be 4000 in 2 buildings and MV and WV to be 3000 in one building each. Some seem shocked now that NV will offer less opportunity for students because they will be in 1000 student classes instead of 750. None of these things have changed in the past three years. It is just that the people affected are different ones in some cases. |
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Post by momto4 on Feb 20, 2008 22:08:04 GMT -6
It's a matter of concentrating the pain pretty much all at WV or spreading out the pain a bit among the middle schools - some are more impacted than others. I wonder if NV, with a larger capacity is better equipped to handle more excess. Could the current NV boundaries stay in effect for 09, reducing the numbers moving over to WV? We need gatordog and his numbers for this one. |
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Post by fryfox on Feb 20, 2008 22:15:16 GMT -6
It is unacceptable with a 3rd high school opening. There should be a way to make it work. CV asked Kathy Birkett if we could move some Juniors or other Freshman there temporarily too and KB said there would still be too much construction going on to fit any more kids. If we wait til 2010, the construction could actually be complete. and waiting until 10 will further crowd the MSs and HSs - each graduating class is replaced by a larger class How much larger are we really talking here? Besides, the last I checked enrollment numbers had stabilized. I need to go back and look at the 6-7-8 enrollment numbers and compare them to existing. I did it a few weeks ago when I was considering different boundary options and unless my recollection is way off, it wasn't a really big difference. I could be wrong though, I'll try to go back & look. |
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Post by mj173 on Feb 20, 2008 23:41:50 GMT -6
How does the Frontier campus and the 500-600 kids there factor in the 2009 plan? I never see any numbers on that?
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Post by fence on Feb 28, 2008 18:51:39 GMT -6
I would like to see the exact numbers too. And like I said somewhere else, I am not saying this was not an issue before the new site. But I am not sure why that means we don't have the right to bring it up again as an issue. Clearly it wasn't solved. There is a whole new WV now, and the new attendees may not shut up and be quiet and deal with whatever they're given like people have become used to. So maybe we should all get used to THAT  The least disruptive solution is keep Gold open 1 more year. What is the actual impact of that? and waiting until 10 will further crowd the MSs and HSs - each graduating class is replaced by a larger class How much larger are we really talking here? Besides, the last I checked enrollment numbers had stabilized. I need to go back and look at the 6-7-8 enrollment numbers and compare them to existing. I did it a few weeks ago when I was considering different boundary options and unless my recollection is way off, it wasn't a really big difference. I could be wrong though, I'll try to go back & look. |
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Post by moneypit on Feb 28, 2008 19:31:58 GMT -6
I would like to see the exact numbers too. And like I said somewhere else, I am not saying this was not an issue before the new site. But I am not sure why that means we don't have the right to bring it up again as an issue. Clearly it wasn't solved. There is a whole new WV now, and the new attendees may not shut up and be quiet and deal with whatever they're given like people have become used to. So maybe we should all get used to THAT The least disruptive solution is keep Gold open 1 more year. What is the actual impact of that? How much larger are we really talking here? Besides, the last I checked enrollment numbers had stabilized. I need to go back and look at the 6-7-8 enrollment numbers and compare them to existing. I did it a few weeks ago when I was considering different boundary options and unless my recollection is way off, it wasn't a really big difference. I could be wrong though, I'll try to go back & look. Either point (fences above for keeping gold open 1 more year and warriorpride with waiting to shift NV movers to WV for an additional year) make a lot of sense. NV has upwards of 25% capacity advantage over WV, in a much better position to handle crowded conditions, as they currently are. My Sr daughter there is one of 1200 soon to be graduates in her class. |
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Post by sushi on Feb 28, 2008 21:34:31 GMT -6
Numbers from my friend. NVHS 2009 1030 Gold, 3360 Main 4390 Total
2010 968 Gold, 3200 Main 4168 total
2011 946 Gold, 3000 Main 3946 Total
2012 937 Gold, 2940 Main 3877 total
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Post by proschool on Feb 28, 2008 21:53:29 GMT -6
It would be a shame to have the middle schools so crowded with all those open spaces at MV.
How do the numbers work for WE and Fry Freshmen at NV Gold and placing WVHS freshman at MVHS in 2009 or even 2010?
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