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Post by mandmmom on Feb 28, 2008 22:00:33 GMT -6
Question, since NV is the largest HS, why aren't they the ones to have the closest # to capacity, in order to alleviate some relief to WV? This is just a question, b/c I don't know what capacity is for either school...but from all of the posts it seems like WV is taking the bigger hit.
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Post by sushi on Feb 28, 2008 22:14:27 GMT -6
Don;t have the numbers in front of me, but by 2012 all schools will be at more optimum enrollment figures (assuming MV is frosh - senior by then.
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Post by sushi on Feb 29, 2008 7:18:59 GMT -6
My friend tells me that enrollment at both WV & NV campus level out to 3000 in the main.
As a side note , WV is actually 100,000 sq. ft. bigger than NV. Interesting.
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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Feb 29, 2008 7:21:47 GMT -6
Numbers from my friend. NVHS 2009 1030 Gold, 3360 Main 4390 Total 2010 968 Gold, 3200 Main 4168 total 2011 946 Gold, 3000 Main 3946 Total 2012 937 Gold, 2940 Main 3877 total Thanks for the numbers, Sushi. Looks like NV will still be over capacity in the main building for at least 2009 too. I also think though that if you add WE and Fry current 7th graders and let them stay at NV gold in 2009, (there are more than 170 of those) then the gold would be over capacity too. I wish someone would post the projected numbers at WV. I have yet to see them...maybe I missed them somewhere. I guess I am clueless with the numbers but even though WV is losing a gold campus, I still see at least 6 schools leaving WV with just fresh and sophs and I only see 2.5 schools coming into WV with just fresh and sophs. Until I see numbers, I'm just not convinced that WV will be any more crowded than NV will be. I also see this temporary new construction slow down on new homes being built as a good thing for our current MS'ers that will be headed there in 2009. Maybe our enrollment numbers can stabilize instead of growing at the MS level for the next few years until we get evened out. Later edit: OK, I looked back on page 1 and saw the WV numbers. They just don't look that different from NV's. Actually, WV will be at 3082 in 2010 while NV main is still at 3200? Am I missing something? If these numbers are true, I would be thrilled to have WV at 3000 in 2010. |
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Post by wvparent on Mar 2, 2008 16:41:05 GMT -6
The main campus numbers for NVHS are for grades 10-12. The enrollment for WVHS should be grades 9-12 as the WVHS Gold building will be turned into the 7th middle schoool in fall 2009 with the opening of Metea Valley. The 3000+ number quoted for WVHS appears to be only grades 10-12 and does not include freshman. For the two year transition period WVHS is predicted to be extremely crowded; probably moreso than even the year before Neuqua opened. I am one of the WVHS parents who does not really want to know how many kids they plan on cramming in the building. It's not going to be the best environment for educating for two years, but that's just how it has to be. On the positive side, because of the way WVHS was built and added on to, it can handle overcrowding better than NVHS. And remember any square footage numbers for WVHS will include the planetarium and the oversized atrium area.
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Post by momto4 on Mar 2, 2008 16:58:48 GMT -6
The main campus numbers for NVHS are for grades 10-12. The enrollment for WVHS should be grades 9-12 as the WVHS Gold building will be turned into the 7th middle schoool in fall 2009 with the opening of Metea Valley. The 3000+ number quoted for WVHS appears to be only grades 10-12 and does not include freshman. For the two year transition period WVHS is predicted to be extremely crowded; probably moreso than even the year before Neuqua opened. I am one of the WVHS parents who does not really want to know how many kids they plan on cramming in the building. It's not going to be the best environment for educating for two years, but that's just how it has to be. On the positive side, because of the way WVHS was built and added on to, it can handle overcrowding better than NVHS. And remember any square footage numbers for WVHS will include the planetarium and the oversized atrium area. You're right that WV needs to include 9-12 as they will all be in the main building. As previously stated in this thread - WV will be overcrowded having about 3300 kids in the first year the new HS is open. This is less than the 3600 or so the year before NV opened. The second year the WV main campus will house only slightly more than they do now. |
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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Mar 2, 2008 18:06:07 GMT -6
Ok, I was just thinking something. Maybe I am totally off base. I do not have any middle school numbers by ES so all I did was take the 4th and 5th graders from each ES and 'pretended' that they were the incoming and outgoing 9th and 10th graders. Obviously my numbers should be higher since I think the middle school grades are bigger than the current 4th and 5th grade classes. I guestimated (hard because Owen and Gombert now split) that about 1300 kids will leave for MV and only 500 will come from Fry, Petersen and WE. That's about 650 a class leaving and 250 a class coming. A typical class from WV is around 950 now. So you take 950-650+250 and you only get a class of 550? Let's say 600 to error on the cautious side. This will obviously grow as Ashwood grows, but that is interesting. Currently the main campus at WV is holding 2721. So I guess adding those 600 kids will bring it to around 3300. Right now, NV is holding 3264 kids at its main campus. So if WV is better suited for crowding, then I'm hoping maybe it won't be as bad as you think. Of course, my numbers could be totally off base too...I am no expert. But it does seem to coincide with momto4's and the SB numbers.
Later edit. OK, I'm off slightly. The current WV 9th and 10th graders will be 11th and 12th graders and no one is moving. That is around 2000 students. Then add the 9th grade class of 600 and the 10th grade class of 600. I'm still getting a manageable 3200. Obviously not what they have now though. Is it currently crowded at WV?
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Post by moneypit on Mar 2, 2008 18:08:54 GMT -6
What is just wrong is how there are a couple of years of kids that will go from an overcrowded Scullen (hence the portable trailers), to one year at NVHS gold, with 1200, then to alleviate overcrowding there be moved over to a school 7 miles away for an overcrowded situation for 2 more years. Yeah, this whole plan works out great for her.
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Post by sushi on Mar 2, 2008 18:14:14 GMT -6
No question it is going to be a tough but unavoidable situation for those in the transition years. I wish there were another way; wish Metea was already built. Trust me, though, go to NV this week during passing period. I can't imagine it being much worse than it is now at either school. It will be an adjustment, sorry it has to be your kid.
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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Mar 2, 2008 18:17:52 GMT -6
What is just wrong is how there are a couple of years of kids that will go from an overcrowded Scullen (hence the portable trailers), to one year at NVHS gold, with 1200, then to alleviate overcrowding there be moved over to a school 7 miles away for an overcrowded situation for 2 more years. Yeah, this whole plan works out great for her. I do feel for you. Those trailers at Scullen don't look like much fun. All the more reason to get this school built somewhere. You would think that the third high school would immediately solve the overcrowding but since people only want it opened with 2 grades for sports reasons, everyone has to put up with the crowding for a couple of years. I really do feel for those current 8th graders that are going to be transitioning from NV to WV. |
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Post by moneypit on Mar 2, 2008 18:21:43 GMT -6
Which means overcrowding for my daughters education from 6th to 12th. Small consolation for her knowing the district is ahead in the long run.
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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Mar 2, 2008 18:24:46 GMT -6
We parents of current middle schoolers will suffer the most. Luckily kids are resilient, but I wish it could be better for my kids too. Wish they were both 3rd graders right about now and I would be in ignorant bliss of all this.
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Post by moneypit on Mar 2, 2008 18:26:09 GMT -6
No question it is going to be a tough but unavoidable situation for those in the transition years. I wish there were another way; wish Metea was already built. Trust me, though, go to NV this week during passing period. I can't imagine it being much worse than it is now at either school. It will be an adjustment, sorry it has to be your kid. It could have been avoidable for certain areas that already deal with the overcrowding. They could have been left where they were at NVHS and another area moved to MV or WV, as several posts have suggested since the board meeting. Share the pain as they say. |
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Post by moneypit on Mar 2, 2008 18:28:52 GMT -6
Good point sleepless.
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Post by sleeplessinnpvl on Mar 2, 2008 18:31:55 GMT -6
No question it is going to be a tough but unavoidable situation for those in the transition years. I wish there were another way; wish Metea was already built. Trust me, though, go to NV this week during passing period. I can't imagine it being much worse than it is now at either school. It will be an adjustment, sorry it has to be your kid. It could have been avoidable for certain areas that already deal with the overcrowding. They could have been left where they were at NVHS and another area moved to MV or WV, as several posts have suggested since the board meeting. Share the pain as they say. I have to say I disagree with you if you think NV is going to be less crowded than WV that first year. NV is already way overcrowded from what I hear and they will only be losing 250 kids from each of the 9th and 10th grade classes. Maybe the gold campus will be good at around 1000, but I still think the main campus will be crowded with the other 2 upper classes all over 1100. |
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