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Post by doctorwho on Feb 11, 2008 17:53:48 GMT -6
Did they have 6 and potentially more ES's increase their commute ? Did they have anyone double their commute and more ? Did I miss the 3rd 203 high school announcement ? If they built a 3rd HS today, I doubt they'd build it at Naper and I88 - I would think they'd put it where their new population is, just a guess. But I'd hold them to the same standard- no one goes to the furthest HS when you have 3 high schools. I'm just trying to show that increased commutes for some, with the opening of a new school, is not without precedence - just across town, in fact. We don't live in a perfect world, where schools can be built exactly, mathematically, perfectly in the optimal location for every household in the district. I'm trying to change anyone's mind, or make anyone feel any better - I was just addressing the specific point on commutes increasing for some - if I had more free time, I'd go looking at more local HS boundaries & probably find more examples of this One would need a lot of time to find one that spent $150M to increase the commute of 1/3 of it's students - significantly for many. That's a lot more than some. No one said it had to be perfect - but the commutes should not be lousy either. |
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Post by Arch on Feb 11, 2008 17:59:31 GMT -6
Is MDGEN a subsidiary of Comm Ed? Is so is Comm Ed going to make a promise or just the subsidiary. Midwest Gen agreed to indemnify ComEd (even against environmental issues) when they purchased the plant as part of a bulk sale of their generating facilities including the coal-fired plants and other peakers. Further, Midwest Gen agreed to waive a particular environmental clause (as part of the sales agreement) that stipulated that certain certifications of the land and hazards had to be disclosed by the seller 30 days prior to the sale. They agreed to accept those notifications post-sale according to what I read in the SEC filings. ComEd isn't part of this equation legally from what I can tell even though many are under the impression they are. Again, I don't think all of the facts are known by our administration and SB. They certainly were unaware of the history of what fuel and when it was burned even though they *THOUGHT* they had all of the right data. M2 admitted to me that the data I pointed him at online is far more complete than the data they were working from. |
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Post by confused on Feb 11, 2008 20:13:50 GMT -6
Did anyone go to the SB meeting tonight? It didn't look like boundaries were on the agenda, but they may have been mentioned? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
It is the elephant in the room, right? (this board has been relatively quiet - thanks for keeping it going, Doc, Arch, GD, WP!)
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Post by doctorwho on Feb 11, 2008 20:30:22 GMT -6
Did anyone go to the SB meeting tonight? It didn't look like boundaries were on the agenda, but they may have been mentioned? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? It is the elephant in the room, right? (this board has been relatively quiet - thanks for keeping it going, Doc, Arch, GD, WP!) I have a feeling once the shoe drops tomorrow- it will be a lot more vocal here and around in general. It is amazing how many people in this district still do not know exactly what is happening. When it arrives in the backpack tomorrow - dinner conversation tomorrow night should be -- well, lively. |
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Post by rew on Feb 11, 2008 20:34:18 GMT -6
I would guess the SB was presented the rec boundaries from the admin tonight in exec session.
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Post by confused on Feb 11, 2008 20:49:25 GMT -6
Did anyone go to the SB meeting tonight? It didn't look like boundaries were on the agenda, but they may have been mentioned? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? It is the elephant in the room, right? (this board has been relatively quiet - thanks for keeping it going, Doc, Arch, GD, WP!) I have a feeling once the shoe drops tomorrow- it will be a lot more vocal here and around in general. It is amazing how many people in this district still do not know exactly what is happening. When it arrives in the backpack tomorrow - dinner conversation tomorrow night should be -- well, lively. Without a doubt. It will definitely be interesting... |
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Post by doctorwho on Feb 11, 2008 20:52:16 GMT -6
I would guess the SB was presented the rec boundaries from the admin tonight in exec session. I would think that's likely true. They will have to answer to constituents once it is announced so they will need to understand the logic. I would think it could have been a lengthy session if there are many changes to ES and MS boundaries. My guess is the changes there will be more isolated than widespread. We'll see what time they are released tomorrow, likely around or after lunchtime if they are sending them home with the AM Kindergarteners also. |
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Post by casey on Feb 11, 2008 21:02:46 GMT -6
Who knows how everything will pan out tomorrow. I would think that there will be more than a few disappointed with boundaries. Let's face it, the location of the school being so far removed from student density just plain stinks. It's sad they we have to practically empty WV just to fill MV. So many long commutes created as a result! I still can't believe that this site is actually coming to fruition.  I just want to go on record one more time and say how wrong I think the MWGEN site is for the IPSD 204. Even if they were giving the land away, I wouldn't choose it for the location of the third school. IMO, it is a permanent mistake that we will always be dealing with. Yes, I know there are several neighborhoods that are happy with the new location but I just think it is wrong for the majority of the district. That being said, I will still be shocked if MV is open at MWGEN for the 2009 school year. I just can't see it happening. This has been a long and ugly road, that's for sure. |
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Post by Arch on Feb 11, 2008 21:08:58 GMT -6
Casey,
I predict this one will be the true albatross around the district's neck in terms of 'costs'.
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Post by confused on Feb 11, 2008 22:58:59 GMT -6
Will they really close on this land without having the damages from Brach Brodie settled? It truly is unbelievable to me - and I strongly agree with you, Casey & Arch. I heard the comment again about possibly closing WV one day. Then you can have kids with 2 hr round trip bus rides when more schools get shifted north. Now that's something to look forward to!
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Post by proschool on Feb 11, 2008 23:18:31 GMT -6
Will they really close on this land without having the damages from Brach Brodie settled? It truly is unbelievable to me - and I strongly agree with you, Casey & Arch. I heard the comment again about possibly closing WV one day. Then you can have kids with 2 hr round trip bus rides when more schools get shifted north. Now that's something to look forward to! Why not? We have abondoned the BB property and BB is entitled to damages no matter where we build a school. |
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Post by researching on Feb 12, 2008 0:00:58 GMT -6
Will they really close on this land without having the damages from Brach Brodie settled? It truly is unbelievable to me - and I strongly agree with you, Casey & Arch. I heard the comment again about possibly closing WV one day. Then you can have kids with 2 hr round trip bus rides when more schools get shifted north. Now that's something to look forward to! Why not? We have abondoned the BB property and BB is entitled to damages no matter where we build a school. You are absolutely right. However, where is the surplus to cover such fees? Aren't those damages coming out of the referendum money? If not, where is the money coming from? If the damages ARE coming out of the referendum, then it is only logical to know how much is left (after paying damages) to go toward the land and building on it. |
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Post by jwh on Feb 12, 2008 7:08:49 GMT -6
That's awesome, the headline in the Daily Herald quotes SB members as saying the boundaries will be "logical" and based on "geography". The two words I've used over and over on this board and with what I sent to Kathy B for recommended boundaries.
Now, hopefully the map we see today follows those two rules and doesn't isolate anyone.
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Post by 204parent on Feb 12, 2008 7:28:39 GMT -6
That's awesome, the headline in the Daily Herald quotes SB members as saying the boundaries will be "logical" and based on "geography". The two words I've used over and over on this board and with what I sent to Kathy B for recommended boundaries. Now, hopefully the map we see today follows those two rules and doesn't isolate anyone. Unfortunately, the MWGEN site is not logical... |
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Post by rew on Feb 12, 2008 7:36:04 GMT -6
Many residents used geography and logic when they bought their home and the district has played a cruel joke on them
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