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Post by doctorwho on Jan 17, 2008 13:08:43 GMT -6
I still want to know how the hell Watts and Cowlishaw are somehow now North section of the district that runs from north of I88 to say 124th. Not even on the skewed boundary maps are we north doctorwho - you are completely swimming up stream here. You are north of 75th, so that makes you part of the north section. The fact that you are on the east side of the district is pointless since WVHS and MVHS are on the west side of the district. Clearly under no option will you be going to NVHS, and since you are part of Hill MS with Brookdale and Longwood (Clear MVHS schools based on the AME location) you will be at MVHS due to enrollment needs. Get over it! you get over it - and buy yourself a d**n map -- take a look at a map of the district and tell me we are north - measure the north - central and south -- The north end would end about Liberty street - not 75th - central would run from liberty to say 87th and south of 87th would be south. dispute that - instead of just mouthing off yes we may be forced north due to the crappy location chosen and the fact there are not people there to fill the school- and having already having to travel north to get to Hill- has ZERO to do with that- LW and BD are northern schools and should go there- just because we are at Hill means crap as far as where we are located and who said anything about going to NV - where did you get that ?? It is WVHS that is a central school and has always been a centrally located school. |
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Post by rocky on Jan 17, 2008 13:11:34 GMT -6
Assuming Ames is the site, I think the Informant’s proposed boundaries are pretty much right on. I posted essentially these same boundaries yesterday just by looking at a map, considering ES enrollments, and making logical choices. The only thing I had different, was I had all of Welch going to NV. According to my calculation, this still only got NV up to 39% of the population, but overall does a nice job of approaching the 40/30/30 split without any ridiculous commutes. One question I do have though…. both the Informant and myself had Steck going to Ames. Would this violate the walker-stay-walkers guideline? I know Steck is very close to WV. If it does, then I really do see a problem with finding enough kids to fill the 30% at Ames without tapping into Owen. To me, tapping into Owen does cross the line into the “ridiculous commute” arena. Can someone shed some light on the Steck question? So another 5 minutes south of me becomes ridiculous-- what are we then - semi ridiculous as far as a commute-- 1 1/2 on a bus and yes worse yet for Owen 1 hr 45 mins on a bus is ridiculous -- maybe they should teach 2 periods of class on the d**n bus -- save even more space. Maybe AP Civil Engineering and Traffic Management Please. Enough with all the drama. I think everyone on this board would love to hear one single positive suggestion from you rather than the constant complaining and negativity. |
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Post by doctorwho on Jan 17, 2008 13:13:54 GMT -6
So another 5 minutes south of me becomes ridiculous-- what are we then - semi ridiculous as far as a commute-- 1 1/2 on a bus and yes worse yet for Owen 1 hr 45 mins on a bus is ridiculous -- maybe they should teach 2 periods of class on the d**n bus -- save even more space. Maybe AP Civil Engineering and Traffic Management Please. Enough with all the drama. I think everyone on this board would love to hear one single positive suggestion from you rather than the constant complaining and negativity. having been here and posting about 2 years longer than you - I don't think you speak for everyone else- when I have something positive to say right now I will say it- if not I will speak my mind. If you don't like that - tough. The site is crappy, my commute is crappy - period. Nice of you to join us after all this time and tell me what I am all about -- post your community under your avatar- very interested |
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Post by hmmm on Jan 17, 2008 13:15:52 GMT -6
FINAL BOUNDARIES MVHSBrookdale Longwood Brooks Young Watts Cowlishaw Steck WVHSGombert McCarty Georgetown Owen White Eagle Welch Clow NVHSFry Peterson Springbrook Builta Kendall Graham Patterson This is what it will really look like when you divide the school into a North section, a Central section and a South section. The overwhelming majority of people in Dist. 204 wanted geographically based boundries drawn. These are the cleanest, logical and most geographically based boundaries that work for the A&E location. Any other choice smacks of politics as usual. |
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Post by supermomof4 on Jan 17, 2008 13:16:29 GMT -6
doctorwho - you are completely swimming up stream here. You are north of 75th, so that makes you part of the north section. The fact that you are on the east side of the district is pointless since WVHS and MVHS are on the west side of the district. Clearly under no option will you be going to NVHS, and since you are part of Hill MS with Brookdale and Longwood (Clear MVHS schools based on the AME location) you will be at MVHS due to enrollment needs. Get over it! you get over it - and buy yourself a d**n map -- take a look at a map of the district and tell me we are north - measure the north - central and south -- The north end would end about Liberty street - not 75th - central would run from liberty to say 87th and south of 87th would be south. dispute that - instead of just mouthing off yes we may be forced north due to the crappy location chosen and the fact there are not people there to fill the school- and having already having to travel north to get to Hill- has ZERO to do with that- LW and BD are northern schools and should go there- just because we are at Hill means crap as far as where we are located and who said anything about going to NV - where did you get that ?? It is WVHS that is a central school and has always been a centrally located school. Who are you? Who? Who?...Who? Who?... The site will be AME I think. How do you propose filling MVHS without Watts and Cowlishaw? Looking at student population density you are not even central. You are clearly east, but that doesn't matter unless you can somehow get 203 and 204 to merge. Good Luck with That! |
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Post by chicoryowl on Jan 17, 2008 13:16:49 GMT -6
So another 5 minutes south of me becomes ridiculous-- what are we then - semi ridiculous as far as a commute-- 1 1/2 on a bus and yes worse yet for Owen 1 hr 45 mins on a bus is ridiculous -- maybe they should teach 2 periods of class on the d**n bus -- save even more space. Maybe AP Civil Engineering and Traffic Management Please. Enough with all the drama. I think everyone on this board would love to hear one single positive suggestion from you rather than the constant complaining and negativity. 1. You don't speak for me. 2. I drove up Eola from Ogden to N. Aurora this morning to catch a 7AM train. If I were Dr. Who, I would be upset. 3. My neighborhood may end up at MVHS (instead of WVHS) and I'm not too happy about it. The commute time is excessive. |
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Post by concerned on Jan 17, 2008 13:18:25 GMT -6
Avenging Eagle: If it goes like Peterson they'll end up closing WV and sending everyone to MV. Talk about some long commutes then... If you really want me to get my conspiracy theory engine going I have often wondered if this was not part of a some master plan to close WVHS. I know, I know this would require someone who is able to create a master plan  But this is not the first time I have wondered something like this. Okay, I will take my tinfoil hat off now... I have always felt that this is the SB way to close WV. I believe that is why the selected the BB site. It they have 2 south schools too close together this will not be possible. |
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Post by fence on Jan 17, 2008 13:19:28 GMT -6
Split campuses and make the northern site a magnet school that students apply to, and all of this goes away. The third HS could be done by 2009, with a smaller footprint and smaller budget. Everyone has skin in the game at every school we have. People want fair, give 'em fair. I think we can live without another 3000 person HS as long as we have some relief.
The only thing the solution wouldn't address is sports. Which I'm sure we could figure out.
Thoughts?
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Post by chicoryowl on Jan 17, 2008 13:21:41 GMT -6
No idea of the numbers, but just for grins... MVHS Brookdale Longwood Brooks Young Steck McCarty WVHS Peterson Fry Welch (all) White Eagle Gombert Georgetown Cowlishaw NVHS Watts Owen (same attendance area won't be in place anyway) Graham Kendall Builta Patterson Springbook Clow OR Move Watts and Owen to WV and send Fry/Peterson to NV. Or keep the Gold campus at WV and send everyone above 95th street and below Ogden there. Or if we really want equity across all worlds so everyone shuts up - split campuses so WV = Freshman/Soph and NV = Junior/Sr. The Frontier campus is a lab for upper classmen. And have the northern site be a magnet school for math/science/technology. Or agriculture. They can have a whole semester in soil testing. I wonder what letsgetcreative can come up with this time!! What do you mean that Owen won't have the same attendance area? Signed...Current Owen Parent |
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Post by gumby on Jan 17, 2008 13:22:36 GMT -6
I still want to know how the hell Watts and Cowlishaw are somehow now North section of the district that runs from north of I88 to say 124th. Not even on the skewed boundary maps are we north doctorwho - you are completely swimming up stream here. You are north of 75th, so that makes you part of the north section. The fact that you are on the east side of the district is pointless since WVHS and MVHS are on the west side of the district. Clearly under no option will you be going to NVHS, and since you are part of Hill MS with Brookdale and Longwood (Clear MVHS schools based on the AME location) you will be at MVHS due to enrollment needs. Get over it! I'm going to get in trouble for this . . . *edited* No one has mentioned a need to go to NVHS. You must have the NVHS envy thing going. Edited by moderator for inappropriate content. |
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Post by Arch on Jan 17, 2008 13:23:17 GMT -6
If you really want me to get my conspiracy theory engine going I have often wondered if this was not part of a some master plan to close WVHS. I know, I know this would require someone who is able to create a master plan But this is not the first time I have wondered something like this. Okay, I will take my tinfoil hat off now... I have always felt that this is the SB way to close WV. I believe that is why the selected the BB site. It they have 2 south schools too close together this will not be possible. In 203, Central and North are not that far apart. |
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Post by chicoryowl on Jan 17, 2008 13:23:37 GMT -6
Split campuses and make the northern site a magnet school that students apply to, and all of this goes away. The third HS could be done by 2009, with a smaller footprint and smaller budget. Everyone has skin in the game at every school we have. People want fair, give 'em fair. I think we can live without another 3000 person HS as long as we have some relief. The only thing the solution wouldn't address is sports. Which I'm sure we could figure out. Thoughts? I'm not a big fan of the magnet school concept. I like the idea of drawing down the enrollment in both schools as much as possible. Also, it may take away opportunities at the other schools. |
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Post by supermomof4 on Jan 17, 2008 13:26:28 GMT -6
doctorwho - you are completely swimming up stream here. You are north of 75th, so that makes you part of the north section. The fact that you are on the east side of the district is pointless since WVHS and MVHS are on the west side of the district. Clearly under no option will you be going to NVHS, and since you are part of Hill MS with Brookdale and Longwood (Clear MVHS schools based on the AME location) you will be at MVHS due to enrollment needs. Get over it! I'm going to get in trouble for this . . . but screw off, lady. No one has mentioned a need to go to NVHS. You must have the NVHS envy thing going. Nice try, but no envy here. My kids went to NVHS. Just tired of people crying over this. Move on or move out! I am sure 203 or Bennet would love to have your money! |
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Post by chicoryowl on Jan 17, 2008 13:31:23 GMT -6
I'm going to get in trouble for this . . . but screw off, lady. No one has mentioned a need to go to NVHS. You must have the NVHS envy thing going. Nice try, but no envy here. My kids went to NVHS. Just tired of people crying over this. Move on or move out! I am sure 203 or Bennet would love to have your money! You're ill informed if you think that Dr. Who is upset about not going to NVHS. He's been posting on here longer than I have (almost two years) and he's been very happy going to WVHS. In fact, I can only assume you've been posting on here for days because his concern with going to MVHS is the commuting time. Take a minute and read through some of the posts prior to the announcement. But congratulations on going to NVHS. |
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Post by gumby on Jan 17, 2008 13:32:44 GMT -6
I'm going to get in trouble for this . . . but screw off, lady. No one has mentioned a need to go to NVHS. You must have the NVHS envy thing going. Nice try, but no envy here. My kids went to NVHS. Just tired of people crying over this. Move on or move out! I am sure 203 or Bennet would love to have your money! My bad. The NVHS superiority complex thing going. *edited* Edited by moderator for inappropriate content. |
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But this is not the first time I have wondered something like this. Okay, I will take my tinfoil hat off now...